#53: Capitalism, Democracy, Fascism, Trump w/ Gordon & Webber -- and a few words about Mark Carney
Update: 2025-05-18
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Todd Gordon and Jeff Webber join David on a deep dive into understanding the far right, including fascism, as a phenomenon of capitalist society. The interview was recorded on April 13, 2025.
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In this episode, Todd and Jeff discuss ideas they develop in a book they're writing. If you have access to the print edition or subscriber-only online access to the journal Spectre, you can read their article in issue 8 (2023), “The Authoritarian Disposition: Capitalism, Liberalism, Fascism." If not, they've also published this brief piece: Todd Gordon and Jeffery R. Webber: The Return of Fascism? https://www.focaalblog.com/2024/01/29/todd-gordon-and-jeffery-r-webber-the-return-of-fascism/
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Mentioned in the episode:
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Thomas Hummel, "For revolutionaries, the period must be defined by the international fight against the far right"
https://tempestmag.org/2025/03/for-revolutionaries-the-period-must-be-defined-by-the-international-fight-against-the-far-right/
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Topics covered (times are approximate):
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capitalism and liberalism 0:06:13
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democracy 0:20:24
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the Right 0:35:36
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fascism 0:45:15
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"populism," popular front anti-fascism, and the casualization of "fascism" 1:00:10
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left strategy against the far right 1:09:32
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Brazil and Argentina 1:15:07
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Trump's second administration 1:20:50
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Canada 1:37:01
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In this episode, Todd and Jeff discuss ideas they develop in a book they're writing. If you have access to the print edition or subscriber-only online access to the journal Spectre, you can read their article in issue 8 (2023), “The Authoritarian Disposition: Capitalism, Liberalism, Fascism." If not, they've also published this brief piece: Todd Gordon and Jeffery R. Webber: The Return of Fascism? https://www.focaalblog.com/2024/01/29/todd-gordon-and-jeffery-r-webber-the-return-of-fascism/
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Mentioned in the episode:
.
Thomas Hummel, "For revolutionaries, the period must be defined by the international fight against the far right"
https://tempestmag.org/2025/03/for-revolutionaries-the-period-must-be-defined-by-the-international-fight-against-the-far-right/
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Topics covered (times are approximate):
.
capitalism and liberalism 0:06:13
.
democracy 0:20:24
.
the Right 0:35:36
.
fascism 0:45:15
.
"populism," popular front anti-fascism, and the casualization of "fascism" 1:00:10
.
left strategy against the far right 1:09:32
.
Brazil and Argentina 1:15:07
.
Trump's second administration 1:20:50
.
Canada 1:37:01
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