Phoebe Gates went from failed prototypes in her Stanford dorm room to
building one of the fastest growing fashion-tech startups in the world.

In this interview, the co-founder of AI shopping app Phia shares how she
and her co-founder Sophia Kianni scaled from 200 early users to half a
million downloads, raised $9M from investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris
Jenner, and Sara Blakely, and turned their vision into a personal AI
shopping assistant trusted by a new generation of consumers.

From building in public and hacking growth with feedback loops to
pitching high-profile investors and navigating privilege, Phoebe breaks
down the exact strategies that fueled her rapid rise as a young founder.

What you’ll learn from this interview:
• How Phoebe went from 50+ failed ideas to finding product-market fit in
fashion-tech
• The grassroots tactics she used to get her first 200 users
• Why feedback loops and “pizza nights” became their biggest growth hack
• How she pitched and secured investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris
Jenner, and Sara Blakely
• The mindset shift that helped her see failure as experimentation
• Why building in public became an unfair advantage for distribution and
community
• How to leverage AI and automation as a young founder to scale faster

By the end of this interview, you’ll walk away with a playbook for
finding your idea, validating it with real users, and scaling it into a
fast-growth business—so you can apply the same principles to your own
entrepreneurial journey.

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LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-gates-82a60b296/

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