In order to defeat an ideology, we must first understand it. This week we talk with former white supremacist, Christopher Buckley, as he details his path to white supremacy, and what led him to seek redemption. We also discuss how these hate groups are able to grow and spread their rhetoric and what we can to stem its rise in a divisive world.

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