Welcome to ’60 Minutes or less’ - the podcast from Birthday Cake For Breakfast - where for episode 45, we’re chuffed to welcome one of our favourites, Jack Cooper of Modern Nature!

Enlisting the talents of a host of contemporaries, Cooper has crafted the sound of Modern Nature across a number of releases, each one as spellbinding as the next. Taking the name of the band from the diaries of filmmaker Derek Jarman, there’s something of the natural world to Modern Nature, the band creating contemplative pieces that often allow some respite from the day to day. Each release up until their latest album even features wildlife on the artwork.

In August 2025, Modern Nature put out a wonderful set of new songs in the form of ‘The Heat Warps’ (out via tastemakers Bella Union). We caught up with Cooper over Zoom ahead of release to talk all about the new record, as well as the late Andrew Weatherall, friction with an audience, playing live with Andrew Savage and introducing your child to The Beatles - not literally, mind you (though there’s two remaining Beatles - never say never!)

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