As CPH:DOX is starting today, wine aficionado Rune and Marvel-father Tryggvi enter the trenches with Peter Jackson’s new documentary They Shall Not Grow Old. Also, the 17 hour long drone-doc Leaving Neverland gets discussed in excruciating, slowly flying-over-Neverland detail. That, the sleep-training of 3 year olds, some very pregnant ladies and some very strong beer. Hold on tight.

Our conversation about Leaving Neverland starts at 26:55 and They Shall Not Grow Old at 49:52

You can find the list of all movies mentioned here: bit.ly/TCP-064

This episode contains a soundclips from the trailers of Leaving Neverland and They Shall Not Grow Old. The intro music has soundclips from Blue Velvet, The Conversation, and Ex Machina