Megan chats with Pat Flynn about breaking free from information overload, focusing on what matters, and building momentum through experimentation and micro mastery.

Pat Flynn is a father, husband, and lifelong learner from San Diego known as one of the most trusted voices in digital entrepreneurship. He’s the founder of Smart Passive Income, co-creator of the SwitchPod, and host of Deep Pocket Monster on YouTube. Pat inspires millions through his podcasts, communities, and live events like Card Party, all while advising companies and sharing his passion for creativity, connection, and growth. Pat also serves as an advisor to dozens of companies and is a sought-after keynote speaker. In his free time, he enjoys fishing, collecting Pokémon cards, and rewatching the Back to the Future trilogy.

Pat shares how to stop drowning in advice and start acting. From his “lean learning” method to daily experiments and micromastery, Pat teaches creators to swap perfectionism for progress. This episode is packed with energy, clarity, and practical strategies for focused, sustainable growth.

Key points discussed include:

Information isn’t progress: Learn only what you need right now.

Start small and act fast: Progress comes from experiments, not overthinking.

Embrace micromastery: Focus on tiny skills that compound over time.

Repurpose smart: Use your content in multiple formats to reach more people.

Count actions, not likes: Measure consistency, not vanity metrics.

Lean out distractions: Say no joyfully to everything that isn’t aligned.

Failure is feedback: Each attempt gets you closer to mastery.

Discipline creates freedom: Systems and batching unlock creative space.

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