"Every starting line is a chance for a breakthrough."

Josette Andrews is heading to Tokyo! This summer, the On-sponsored athlete went into the 5000m race at U.S. Outdoor National Championships as the top-seeded athlete — and it was the calmest she's ever been in a championship race. In this conversation, Josette talks about racing with a target on her back at USAs, and about making her first outdoor world championship team (she finished third in the 5000m Final at USAs, behind Shelby Houlihan and Elise Cranny). Josette, whose personal best is 14:25 from Rome earlier this summer, will represent Team USA in the women's 5000m race on September 18. Josette and her husband, Olympian Robby Andrews, live in Boulder, CO, where Josette trains with the On Athletics Club.

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In this episode:

• Where in the world is Josette Andrews? (2:30 )
• On Josette’s decision to race on the Diamond League circuit between USAs and World Championships (4:30 )
• How pro athletes get experience with tactical races (12:00 )
• What’s making Josette happy today? (14:15 )
• What it’s like being a top seed at U.S. Outdoor National Championships (20:00 )
• Making the team vs. being on the team, and how Josette hurt her foot before USAs (24:30 )
• On being asked about Shelby Houlihan’s return (31:50 )
• Why Josette feels so calm this summer (34:15 )
• Josette’s key takeaways from the 2025 outdoor season (39:00 )
• How Josette ran an 18-second personal best in the 5000m this year, and how she reflects on this “dream season” (46:45 )
• Josette's message to everyone going through a tough time right now (51:00 )

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