Is optimism required in order to alert folks to our ecological overshoot emergency? Dave and Stephanie discuss the challenge of communicating the depth and urgency of overshoot without shutting people down.

Also:

• Dave shares how he and a group of local growthbusters projected a guerilla "pop-up" billboard on New Year's Eve – attempting to provide an honest reality check, but not put revelers off (or entice police or security personnel to stop them)
• The wisdom in U.S. President Jimmy Carter's "malaise" speech
• Congestion pricing results in kids walking, riding bikes, or taking public transit to school
• China wants to goose consumption in order to keep high GDP growth
• Rampant growthism in reporting on UK economic contraction
• Incoming Trump advisors count on economic growth to balance the budget
• The enormous carbon footprint of stadium concerts and sporting events
• A new book by Robin Wall Kimmerer: The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

President Jimmy Carter's "Malaise" Speech
https://youtu.be/sXwZSzy9Ies?si=ekyAsmL0FokRvpCc

London Saw a Surprising Benefit to Fining High-Polluting Cars: More Active Kids
https://grist.org/cities/london-fining-polluting-cars-more-active-kids/

How the Debt Could Topple Trump's Growth Agenda
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/16/trump-ceos-american-debt-plan-00194362

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World - by Robin Wall Kimmerer
https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books

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