Episode 9 - Breaking Chains and Building Power with Amy Pons 

In this episode of Good Girl Deprogramming, Michelle Minnikin is joined by Amy, an advocate for workplace psychological safety and national team member of the End Workplace Abuse Movement. Together, they delve into the deep-seated systems of power—patriarchy, capitalism, colonialism—that perpetuate psychological abuse, especially towards women in the workplace. They share lived experiences, discuss the nuances of gaslighting, and highlight the importance of awareness and legislation for psychological safety. Listeners will also be introduced to the empowering concept of personal magic, the importance of curiosity, and embracing one’s unique brilliance beyond societal conditioning.

Amy’s a warrior and a healer who — through empathetic coaching, passion, spiritual guidance, a little bit of magic, and a dash/hint of spice — leads women back to who they are at the soul level, so they can step into their power and live as their favorite selves.

What we talk about:

• 2:08 – Amy’s work and perspectives on the workplace’s patriarchal and colonial roots

  
  



• 5:03 – The true meaning of gaslighting and how it differs from simple “bad behaviour”

  
  



• 9:00 – Real-time learning moments: Dealing with resistance online and reflections on men’s reactions

  
  



• 14:20 – Discussion on the Workplace Psychological Safety Act and state-level legislative progress

  
  



• 17:27 – Strategies for addressing workplace abuse and future plans for national initiatives

  
  



• 21:43 – Michelle and Amy share personal stories of confronting psychological safety and advocacy

  
  



• 24:33 – Dual feelings in activism: Supporting women who perpetuate the system

  
  



• 29:02 – Introducing the concept of ‘magic’ and living authentically

  
  



• 31:06 – Reflective question to the audience: “How’s your heart today?”

  
  



• 32:48 – Future aspirations: Manifesting a women’s gathering in French Polynesia

  
  

Follow Amy on social media:  

Website - www.unlockthemagic.org 

Women Making Moves Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/women_making_moves_?igshid=MjEwN2IyYWYwYw%3D%3D 

Unlock the Magic Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/unlockthemagic_?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D

Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/UnlocktheMagicLLC 

Follow Michelle on social media:  

Website - https://www.michelleminnikin.com/  

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mminnikin/  

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/goodgirldeprogramming  

TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@michelleminnikin

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