After learning tricks from Dynamo as a teenager, Charlotte’s cousin Elliot became a professional magician. Now he works with Charlotte, but along with the way he has dealt with some difficult times. He shares his story of overcoming debilitating anxiety.

Charlotte Church hosts a series of intimate conversations about belonging, working class identity and the unbreakable bonds of family.

A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds.

Producer: Lynsey Martenstyn
Executive producer: Paul Smith
Music by Jonathan Powell & Charlotte Church
Development executive is Emma Shaw
Additional production and editing: Helen Brown
Commissioning editor for BBC Sounds: Rhian Roberts