Charlie and Lucy Barker (The Other Side Of Mrs Wood) discuss Victorian mediums both factual and fictionalised - their work, the spiritualism that led to their popularity, the social circles, the rivalry, the rumours of fraud, and the women's roles as early grief counsellors. We also talk about the early days of the Suffrage movement and various aspects of the book's ending.

Please note there is a very mild swear word in this episode.

A transcript is available on my site

General references:
The Courtauld's exhibition of Georgiana Houghton's spirit paintings
A preview of Tracy Ann Oberman's audio version of The Other Side Of Mrs Wood
Lucy's blog post on the postal service in Victorian times
One Night At McCool's
Lucy's blog post on using Notting Hill

Books mentioned by name or extensively:
Elizabeth Gaskell: Cranford
George Gissings: The Odd Women
Lucy Barker: The Other Side Of Mrs Wood

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Release details: recorded 27th November 2023; published 22nd April 2024

Where to find Lucy online: Blog || Twitter || Instagram

Where to find Charlie online: Website || Twitter || Instagram || TikTok

Discussions

01:50 The real mediums who inspired the book: Agnes Guppy and Florence Cook
05:17 Lucy talks about how mediums in general were able to escape accusations of falsehood despite many being outed as frauds
08:53 The fickleness and loyalty of medium patrons
10:35 Why the Victorians were in to Spiritualism
14:00 The importance of the references to America throughout the book - America's own spiritualism
15:27 Mrs Wood, Miss Newman, and Miss Finch
19:07 The very early days of the women's suffrage movement
22:30 About Mrs Wood's circle of people
26:35 How Mrs Wood seeing herself as providing a service for grieving people, and the role of mediums in early grief counselling
29:34 The comedy in the book, and Lucy speaks briefly about her next book in the context of humour
30:58 Lucy's use of letters in the book, and Mr Clore's columns
33:23 The ending: why Lucy chose the ending she did for Mrs Wood and Mr Larson
35:32 Charlie thought it was going to be revealed that Miss Finch could really talk to spirits - Lucy discusses this point. Listen in!
37:24 The ending: Mrs Wood and Miss Finch and their terms
39:20 Lucy tells us about the locations in the book: Victorian-era Notting Hill, Portobello Road, Ladbroke Grove
42:32 Lucy gives us more information about her next book

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