If you haven't heard the first three conversations I recorded with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, go listen to those now!

In Part 4 of my conversation with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, we pick up right where we left off: Pushing past the polite version of leadership and getting into the messy, uncomfortable truth.

We talk about what really happens behind the scenes when someone climbs the ranks in the military… the jealousy, the backstabbing, the politics, and the weight of responsibility that nobody outside the uniform sees. Max opens up about becoming a general, losing friends in the process, and why firing people (even people he loved) broke his heart.

Then we go straight into the topics everyone tiptoes around: Memphis. Chicago. Crime. National Guard deployments. Veterans. Homelessness. The VA system. Unions. Bureaucracy. What’s getting better, what’s getting worse, and what flat-out pisses us off.

If you’ve been listening to Parts 1–3, you already know: Max doesn’t sugarcoat anything, and I’m not here to interrupt him with polite talking points. I’m here to ask the questions most people are too scared to ask, and he answers them with the honesty of someone who’s actually lived it.

This conversation isn’t meant to change your mind, but it is meant to challenge your thinking. Take what resonates, question what doesn’t, and let’s get into it.

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