In this episode, our podcast gets entangled in current events. On February 17th, we began a conversation about US foreign policy, Russia, and China with Brian Garvey, Assistant Director of Massachusetts Peace Action, and one week later there were significant developments. We hope you enjoy this two-part conversation, checking in with Brian before and after the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. The original conversation is left intact for context, as Brian wrote to us in email: "I don't feel comfortable whitewashing that I was wrong." We hope you’ll enjoy Brian’s candor, his unique perspective, and his willingness to break down complex geopolitical issues.

Co-hosts: Lulu Liu & Seema Khan

Resources:
https://masspeaceaction.org/

Music by Joakim Karud:
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