Reggie James is a founder, the author of the Product Lost substack, one of the most original thinkers I know, and one of my top choices to be the Creative Director of America.In this conversation, we discuss his latest piece, A tale of two Vaticans (or, OpenAI building an unholy spirit), which you should read before listening, or after.

No one but Reggie could have written this piece, which is the highest praise I can give to a writer. It combines his deep knowledge of the history of Silicon Valley, his Christianity, and his willingness to "critique the gods."

And it gave me an excuse to cover a topic I've been wanting to talk about for a while -- the rise of Christianity and the search for meaning -- with the best person I know to have that conversation with. We go deep and wide in this one. I hope you enjoy it.

At the end of our conversation, Reggie makes a couple of recommendations:

His favorite of his own essays:

Political Expectations

One essay everyone should read:

How to Find Ideas Worth Building by Matt Hackett

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