Daniel Hahn, a retired police chief, interviews Jonni Redick, a retired assistant chief from the California Highway Patrol, in this podcast episode. They discuss Jonni's trailblazing career in law enforcement, her challenges and accomplishments, and her dedication to making a difference. Jonni shares her experiences of facing discrimination and doubts but also highlights the importance of support and self-belief. They reflect on their own experiences in the academy and the need for structural changes within law enforcement. They also discuss the current state of law enforcement and offer advice to those interested in joining the field. The episode concludes with a mention of Jonni's book, "Black, White, and Blue: Surviving the Sifting," which shares her story and experiences in law enforcement.