We discuss whether or not AI export controls work, but we take a really interesting twist because what we talk about is manufacturing. What we talk about is innovation, and it's not whether or not you can control AI chips, but what does it actually take to build innovative product? That's where we really have challenges on export and controls. There's military manufacturing and goods, and that's part of what this AI embargo is about. We really talk about how challenging it is to actually build truly innovative manufacturing and what the barriers are.

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