Mary and Bob recap Strange New Worlds S2E2 "Ad Astra Per Aspera" plus civil rights and non-human personhood in Starfleet. And then the spectacular Todd Stashwick, Captain Liam Shaw from Picard S3, arrives to discuss playing a grease monkey from Chicago, nerd culture, his breathtaking Wolf 359 speech, toxic fandom, dead naming, whether Captain Shaw has a bong in his ready room, and so much more. Make sure to subscribe on your favorite podcast player, and give us a five-star rating and review. Do it for Sebastian!

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