In this episode, Mark and Tallulah cover the second half of Chapter 5, All Change. They talk through the painful process of firing former guest on the podcast and ex-Marillion member Diz Minnitt, the arrival of current bassist Pete Trewavas, and the short-lived involvement of manager David Stopps - part of what’s starting to feel like a revolving door.

Pete joins them in the second half to share his early memories of the band, including his first gig - featuring Fish on acid. An unconventional welcome, even by Marillion standards. They also reflect on the growing buzz during their Scottish tour, which, by the end, had them playing to noticeably bigger crowds, and, for the first time, success started to feel within reach.

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