It all started with a question from the pulpit in church - "who in here is saved?" A simple question sparked an hours long conversation about what the pastor meant when she asked that question and the ones that followed. Join us as we sit down with our resident presiding elder, Dr. Joy, and ask her to break down what people mean when they say the terms "saved" and "believer"

Join us as we dive deep into conversations about what it means to believe and how different interpretations of these concepts can both unite and divide. Whether solid in your answer to that question or that question makes you stop and ponder - this episode will challenge the way we think about those simple questions asked in church.

In this episode:

Dr. Joy - Presiding elder in the A.M.E. Church and our go-to person for helping us demistify church speak

Lauren Hamadou - After recently returning back to church, she joins me to break down some of the churchisms that have sparked questions as she learns more about God.

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