Heather and Zoe talk nerves before their first live show, test out new non-alcoholic drinks, and review the Sunflower sobriety app (yes, with an AI sponsor 👀). Zoe shares stories from her London trip—including getting called out for ordering tea at a pub—and together they unpack the Lil Nas X arrest and what it says about addiction, fame, and mental health.

Thank you to Collective Arts for being a part of this week's episode! You can watch this episode, with timestamps and extras here. 

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