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Andrew Podger AO: Is Thodey public sector reform on Steroids or Valium?

Andrew Podger AO: Is Thodey public sector reform on Steroids or Valium?

Update: 2024-06-24
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In this second interview with former Commonwealth Secretary and Australian Public Service Commissioner Andrew Podger AO, Danielle gets to chat about

  • The pros and cons of bringing all service delivery together in a single agency 
  • The valuing of operational expertise v policy leadership
  • The role of portfolio budget practices in driving Robodebt
  • Cultures of challenge and diversity of thought
  • The future of public service reform.
References in the episode

Now for some appropriately bureaucratic disclaimers....

While we have tried to be as thorough in our research as busy full time jobs and lives allow, we definitely don’t guarantee that we’ve got all the details right.

If you want rigorous reporting on Robodebt, we recommend the work of Rick Morton at the Saturday Paper, Chris Knaus and Luke Henriques-Gomes at the Guardian, Ben Eltham at Crikey, Julian Bajkowski at The Mandarin, and of course, the Robodebt Royal Commission itself.

Please feel free to email us corrections, episode suggestions, or anything else, at thewestminstertraditionpod@gmail.com.

Thanks to PanPot audio for our intro and outro music.

'Til next time!

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