Anti Vaccination

Anti Vaccination

Update: 2019-05-112
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On this episode we talk about probably one of the most contentious topics of our time, and as far as conspiracies go, it's having a very real and measured effect on the health of the human race. We discuss the history and the kooky science behind the anti-vaccination debate.

Vaccinations have been an important part of the survival of the human race and in the last 100 years, with the improvements in medical technology, life spans and standards of living have increased exponentially. But recently people have been questioning the legitimacy of vaccinations and even go so far as to question the integrity of organisations like the CDC, claiming many conspiracy level motives such as sterilisation and population control; widespread autism and other neurological maladies; and even something as benign as greedy business practices.

This may not be what you are looking for in a conspiracy podcast about vaccinations so tread carefully, but what you will get is a look into the history of vaccines; claims about their negative effects like Autism; and a look at the man and the work that began this insidious doubt, Andrew Wakefield and his now infamous paper from the Lancet.

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Comments (5)

Jonathan Roseland

The "herd immunity" argument doesn't pass the standard of critical thinking. The idea is that everybody should be vaccinated because that will give the virus fewer potential hosts mitigating the spread. The regulating agencies think that the statistically small (supposedly) number of vaccine injuries and deaths are worth it because overall they make "the herd" (us!) more susceptible to disease. Herd immunity (supposedly) lowers the statistical chance of the disease spreading. First of all, that's the kind of justification that a Soviet general would use during the battle of Stalingrad; let's send a bunch of conscripts charging into machine gun fire, half the guys will die, the NKVD will shoot those who retreat, and enough will survive to advance and conquer new ground. However, herd immunity doesn't make sense because it only takes one infected guy to spread the disease. If there's just one infected guy coughing on a crowded subway train, he can spread the disease to everybody else on the train. Leftists are so fond of reminding us about how old-world European diseases brought by Europeans killed off millions of the natives in North and Central America. How many European colonizers do you think were sick with smallpox as they hopped off the boat to venture out into the new world? Probably almost none of them. It was probably just a few sick colonizers who initially spread smallpox to a few native Americans who spread the disease to the rest of the population. Further, even vaccinated people still spread the disease unwittingly because they don't experience the symptoms. Many of the Europeans colonizers, would have had a natural immunity to smallpox because they had the disease at some point in their life before they got on the boat. But they were still disease vectors spreading the disease to those susceptible to it. All of the compliant members of the "herd" who got vaccinated because CNN told them not be conspiracy theorists are still spreading disease to those who might be susceptible to it. It only takes one person to spread a disease, famously one very promiscuous gay flight attendant initially spread AIDS to the gay community.

Jun 12th
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Mary Smith

This will be the deciding episode on whether I like it or not.

May 15th
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Sgt. Rex Power Colt

1:44:19 to skip the hellofresh advert

May 13th
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Tim Hipkin

9:19 intro song

May 12th
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Sgt. Rex Power Colt

Tim Hipkin Thanks!

May 13th
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