What if the people around you are more open to spiritual conversations than you assume? In this episode, we sit down with author and cultural analyst Mark Matlock to explore the growing spiritual curiosity in today’s world—and what that means for ministry leaders, churches, and everyday Christ-followers.

We discuss:

• Surprising trends in spiritual openness across generations
• Why assumptions about apathy may be holding us back
• How to engage seekers with humility and curiosity
• How fear and the need for certainty can hold us back from open, curiosity-driven conversations
• How to join conversations God is already starting in people's hearts

Rather than focusing on convincing people, let’s begin noticing where God is already at work and show up with love, patience, and grace. If you’re a ministry leader who wants to better understand and engage with today’s spiritually curious culture, this conversation will encourage, challenge, and equip you.

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Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Mark Matlock on the importance of being present when hearts are ready: "There is a time when people are ready to really put their trust in Christ, and we can actually make that introduction."

Mark Matlock on the significance of spirituality as the true pathway to an upgrade in life: "The spiritually curious are looking for an upgrade, and spirituality is the pathway for an upgrade."

Mark Matlock on the importance of stepping outside Christian circles and engaging with others: "The best thing is to actually get out there and be around people that aren't Christians."
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