In this episode, we speak with Aric Chen, until this week the General and Artistic Director at Het Nieuwe Instituut in Rotterdam. 

With a career spanning the U.S, China, and Europe, Aric is one of the most thoughtful voices on design as a global, political, and deeply human practice. 

We talk about why designers need to look beyond their immediate surroundings, what it means to stay curious, and how to embrace complexity rather than avoid it. 

Listen in to Aric Chen: a curator, connector, and sharp observer who urges us to embrace contradiction — and just as important, not to overthink things.

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