Arjuna Neuman is an artist, filmmaker, and writer who works with the essay form in a multi-perspectival and mobile approach where the ‘essay’ is inherently future-oriented and experimental. Denise Ferreira da Silva is a philosopher, writer and filmmaker, whose practices reflect and speculate on questions crucial to contemporary philosophy, political theory, black thought, feminist thought, and historical materialism. In this episode, Arjuna and Denise plan the next film in their Elemental Cinema series, centred on fire as both combustion and a site for conspiratorial gathering. They discuss their ongoing collaboration, rebellion against the return of fascism, and the necessary optimism of the imagination that can ignite hope in darkened times.

This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.

The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.

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