A sharp panel debates Bitcoin’s “institutional phase”: BlackRock’s ETF as catalyst, SEC policy shifts on in-kind redemptions, and the boom in corporate treasury strategies.

They probe Coinbase custody concentration, nationalization risks, Tether’s role, and why self-custody remains the antidote. AI’s influence on education and CBDCs vs private stablecoins round out a high-signal hour.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

03:11 - Why BlackRock’s spot ETF marked a cultural and capital tipping point. 

05:31 - How SEC limits on in-kind redemptions and their reversal, shape market integrity. 

08:56 - The difference between MicroStrategy’s preferred stock model vs convertible debt. 

10:14 - Why concentrated Coinbase custody introduces fragility and what decentralizes it. 

12:10 - The political “nationalization” risk and how institutions could be rugged. 

17:45 - The case for denominating liabilities in fiat while stacking BTC. 

19:50 - Pitfalls of copycat treasury companies timing the market (e.g., short-dated debt). 

25:53 - How AI-driven discourse (e.g., Grok) accelerates Bitcoin education. 

29:10 - Why private stablecoins (e.g., Tether) may outcompete CBDCs globally. 

37:37 - The timeless lesson: make Bitcoin “un-ruggable” via self-custody.

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

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