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Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)

Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)

Update: 2025-09-12
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In this episode, Anna Stokke speaks with Dr. Ben Solomon, professor and researcher at the University at Albany with expertise in math assessment and intervention. Ben returns to the podcast to discuss “balanced math” and the recently released New York math briefs, which are part of the state’s numeracy initiative, and are set to shape professional development across New York.


He explains why he and his colleagues launched a petition calling for the retraction of the briefs, pointing to omissions, misleading claims, and misuse of the term “evidence based.” They also unpack common math myths, such as the claim that timed tests cause math anxiety, and highlight the importance of explicit instruction while drawing parallels to balanced literacy and the reading wars.


This timely conversation is essential for educators, policymakers, and anyone committed to improving math education.


This episode is also available in video at www.youtube.com/@chalktalk-stokke


Petition to Retract the New York Math Briefs: https://shorturl.at/bN7PF


Masterclass: Evidence-informed Mathematics Teaching, La Trobe University https://shortcourses.latrobe.edu.au/masterclass-evidence-informed-mathematics-teaching


 


TIMESTAMPS


[00:00:23 ] Introduction


[00:04:22 ] Understanding the New York Math Briefs


[00:09:46 ] The science of learning and its frameworks


[00:16:18 ] Myth 1: Time Testing causes Math Anxiety


[00:22:00 ] Myth 2: Explicit Instruction is Only for Students with Disabilities


[00:27:10 ] What is Explicit Instruction?


[00:29:45 ] The Importance of Explicit Instruction


[00:34:07 ] Similarities between Balanced Literacy and Balanced Math


[00:38:30 ] The Fundamental Misunderstandings of Explicit Instruction


[00:41:51 ] Myth 3: Structured Practice of Math Facts and Standard Algorithms Isn’t Useful


[00:43:56 ] Misconceptions about Conceptual Understanding


[00:47:13 ] Myth 4: Discovery Learning Should be Prioritized in the Early Stages of Acquisition


[00:51:50 ] The New York Math Scores


[00:57:03 ] The Benefits of Math Fluency Programs


[00:58:52 ] Replacement Documents for the New York Math Briefs


[1:05:38 ] Final Thoughts


 


RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES 


Red flags in education research with Dr. Ben Solomon

https://www.annastokke.com/podcast/episode/3a372141/red-flags-in-education-research-with-ben-solomon-ep-23


How to build automaticity with math facts (Anna Stokke)

https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-3ny3k-17323a9


Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy

https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/math-fact-crisis-strategies-for-improving-numeracy-with-brian-poncy/


Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding

https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/ep-17-do-timed-tests-cause-math-anxiety-with-robin-codding/


Universal screening in math with Amanda VanDerHeyden

https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/universal-screening-in-math-with-amanda-vanderheyden-ep-50/


From decline to top rankings: How England transformed education with Nick Gibb

https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/from-decline-to-top-rankings-how-england-transformed-education-with-nick-gibb-ep-49/


Teachers Talk Radio

https://www.ttradio.org/


 


RESOURCES


Found here: https://www.annastokke.com/resources/ep-54-resources/


 


EPISODE TRANSCRIPT


Found here: https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-54-transcript/


 


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Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it


Website: www.annastokke.com


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Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)

Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)

Anna Stokke