Dr. Michael Mayer packed a lot into this interview. Buckle up. He touches on the six books he has written and their relevancy. He details how some healers can become shamans or shape shifters. In his case a shape shifter can also be a reluctant metaphysician. Dr. Mayer further theorizes that Tai Chi, astrology, hypnosis, energy psychology, Transpersonal psychology and competitive chess can all be at home with one another. The whole being greater than the sum of its parts.

Dr. Mayer opines about the psychology of chess (as a former competitive player himself). He adds that “a pawn can be a shape shifter by the time it gets to the end of the board.” He thinks it’s valuable to explore our own level of misery in order to cultivate joy and meaning. So, what chess moves do you need to make while you are still living or to be more fully alive?

If your head is not already spinning half-way through this episode, you are either sedated, listening to the wrong podcast, or in a chronic fugue state. I doubt you will be bored. Stay particularly tuned into Dr. Mayer’s demonstration of his classic “River of Life” method. A transformative method and process you will long want to replicate.

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