Ever wonder what it would feel like to walk into a room full of people —maybe your workplace, a conference or press event — and no one looks like you? We're both journalists, but we're of different races. That means our professional experiences vary widely because of the shades of our skin. In this episode, Elvi and Dave chat about what it's like for her to be often the only Black woman or one of a few Black people in a newsroom or almost every journalism setting. It's a thoughtful, insightful conversation that gives listeners a glimpse into how racial dynamics in an overwhelmingly white industry, shape the experiences of Black female journalists.