2025 has been a massive year for the final frontier, and it honestly feels like the new Wild West of freight. We’re recapping the biggest milestones—from Jared Isaacman being named NASA Administrator to the historic month where we had more launches than days in the month.

In this episode, we’re diving into the inspiration behind the American space industry with two of my favorite conversations:

• Building The New Silk Road in Space with CisLunar Joe Pawelski from Cis Lunar Industries joins me to talk about the "space train"—using plasma propulsion and recycling space debris into metal propellant to build a persistent supply chain between Earth and the Moon.
• How to Do Business in Space with Kelli Kedis Ogborn from the Space Foundation breaks down the $570 billion space economy and why the real money isn't just in rockets, but in the "picks and shovels" like in-orbit refueling and modular satellites.

If you’ve ever thought space was just for astronauts, this episode is for you. We’re moving past the "mythos" and looking at the very real logistics of building an off-world economy.

More links from the episode: 

• New NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman is the only administrator ever to go into space
• Firefly Aeropace's BlueGhost
• In April of this year, we got our first view of Earth's polar regions via SpaceX's Dragon Capsule 
• In May of this year, SpaceX released updated renderings of humanoid robots working on Mars
• In November, we had 31 launches in 30 days--the first month in history with more launches than days
• Where to see a rocket launch

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