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This is the Victor Davis Hanson show.
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I'm Jack Fowler, the inept and bundling host.
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We are recording on Sunday, the 19th of January.
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This is the last full day of the Biden presidency.
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It may be the last full day of the Obama era.
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Victor Davis Hanson, who is the star of this show,
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I think it was a speech, but your take on that.
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So Victor, yeah, we are we are on the end of an error EROR.
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Joe Biden put the punctuation mark on that.
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Although he still had did a few things following his farewell speech.
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If you pulled some rabbits out of hats, we can talk about them too
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on the ERA and some more presidential parties.
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But Victor, what was your take on the farewell?
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Well, yeah, Joe Biden gave two farewell speeches.
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One to the State Department and one to us.
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I'll start with the latter first.
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He thought he was Dwight D. Eisenhower Jack
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and he gave that on almost the same day, January, I think Biden did in the 60th.
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I did it on the 17th of 1961.
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So 64 years later, as I left, he gave the speech
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about the dangers of the military industrial complex.
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And he and his speech writers created that order.
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In other words, we were in a Cold War mentality.
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We were building the B-36, the B-52, all this, taxes, citizen was feeling
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that we were an empire to call back Papu Ken and not anybody except.
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So I guess Biden thought he was Dwight Eisenhower.
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And I'd like to, because Biden was worried about a modern,
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comfortable danger.
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And he called it oligarchs and multi-billionaires.
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Now, as I see it, there were three things wrong with it.
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The quote, "Our dear departed Lloyd Biston about our dear Dan Queryl."
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Joe, you're no like.
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I knew like.
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So I didn't know like, as Biston, New JFK.
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But the point is, Eisenhower was coming out of a two-term successful presidency.
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He was the hero of the great crusade.
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I mean, that was his crusade in Europe, his memoir from Norman.
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The beaches of Normandy, across the lines of the interior, during what had
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Joe did, he got out of Afghanistan in humiliation.
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And then he had bragged to the state department.
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There'll be no president after me, whoever has to fight in Afghanistan.
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That would be as if Roosevelt said, "There'll be no president after
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me that ever has to worry about D-Day again, because I lost."
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He had no credibility, and then he got, so what was he worried?
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He was screaming about the oligarchs.
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oligarchs, oligarchs, oligarchs, and I thought, "You shameless hypocrite liar."
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This is a guy who gave the presidential medal of freedom to George Soros,
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a multi-billionaire who broke the bank of England who was a convicted criminal in France and
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can't ever go back, and he used $60 million in 2020 to help subvert the election.
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And then another 60 or 70 to get elected, the likes of George Husqon,
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and Chasey Boudin, and all of the rest of them, Kim Fox,
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all Alvin Bragg, all of the people who have ruined criminal
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jurisprudence in our major cities.
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And then he was the one that Mark Zuckerberg volunteered to put $419 million
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to subvert the work of the registrars and absorb some of their employees, added their own employees,
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to add mailboxes and facilitate this disastrous mail-in voting in the swing space and help Joe Biden win.
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That was an oligarch Joe. That's what you did.
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And then he was the one that conspired with oligarchs to suppress news of the
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underlight as Miranda DeVene has written so wonderfully about,
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suppressing the news of the genuine authentic Hunter laptop and incriminating
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computer. And so he's a cold hypocrite. And then number three,
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these oligarchs quote-unquote, "They're not just people like George Soros. I'm not making
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form of finance. Finance is important as the fuel that runs the American colony."
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But when you see that director hand grab a rocket by Elon Musk, or you see that Elon Musk
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broke into the top three automakers. And no one else had done that. When you see Elon Musk
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re-inventsil from media, and then he steps up for almost nothing. That's pretty impressive.
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And now he's a frenemy of Jeff Bezos. He praised Jeff Bezos' rocket. And Jeff Bezos refused,
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as we remember, to endorse, have his Washington Post mega-phone in endorse Kamala Harris.
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So he's down, he's making, what do we call it, "Jeff, the Hodge," the holding track to Waramago?
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Is that the Hodge? They're all deserves it. It deserves its own special term.
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Yeah, some kind of hodge, but Mika and Joe Scarborough, they made it. Bezos made it. Zuckerberg's made it.
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Bill Gates? Bill Gates is there, and he says he's re-examined.
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Schuft dog made it. Schuft dog. Schuft dog would cut a video about how to shoot Donald Trump.
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You remember that? He was on my list of all people who threatened to shoot Donald Trump.
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And now he says, "They like Donald Trump." He likes him. So people get religion.
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They do. So my point is that these oligarchs are active people who do things. They make cars,
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they make rockets. They change the way we buy things in the case of Amazon. They change the way we
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communicate. So Peter Till, David Sachs, Mark and Reese and Netscape, all of them do stuff.
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They're not just waging, not that it's not good to be a stock market. They can be very good.
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I'm not criticizing, but what they remind me of is what FDR did in 1941. All during the National
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Recovery Act that was declared on Constitution through the New Deal, civilian conversation,
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conservation core, etc. All these captains of industry opposed it. Because he took over the
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free market, controlled it, and fell on the 29 depression all the way to 38, almost 10 years.
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And they said that he was brewing the economy. And he went after them. Then the war started,
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and he thought that the New Deal paradigm would work. And it didn't. We had an army smaller than
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Portugal with the war broke out. And so what did he do? He created something called the war
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production board. These were oligarchs. There were Charles Wilson, the head of Gen G.E.
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And guys and Dupont, Campbell suit. And then he turned, he thought, well, even that's not enough.
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What did that war production do? They kind of did what Elon did. Only they did it to a much greater
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degree. They took over musical sluggers and started making work with him. They took over Dupont
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chemical and made napalm. I don't mean he took it over, but the people transformed it, who owned it.
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Then he turned to three people, kind of like the version of Bezos and Elon or Ramaswamy,
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and he said, William Newtson, you're the head of G.E. and I thought you my entire life, I'm going to
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make you a two-star general. You just do what it has to take, but this is what I want.
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So then Newtson got together with Henry Kaiser and said, "Just plow up path through
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Contra Costa County to the sea, and I want a liberty should get the, here's a design for
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a liberty ship, here's a dime for free. I want them every three days." And he did it. And he said,
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if Henry Ford go out to Weller-Ron, biggest building in the private sector, make it, and I need to be 24
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every hour. And he did. And so those were oligarchs. And those oligarchs, they were called the dollar
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a day. They got no compensation. They made a lot of money, but the point I'm making is what Trump
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is envisioning is not turning over the government to shady bunch of oligarchs, but enlisting a bunch of
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high profile people who everything they do is scrutinized by the media to use their talents that
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made them billionaires on behalf of us. So they're saying to these people, "You can make us the
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frame in space. You can make us preeminent in biotechnology. You can make us preeminent and
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artificial intelligence. You can make us preeminent in cryptocurrency. You can make us
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preeminent in genetic engineering. These are the new challenges that our great-grandfathers and
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grandfather's faced at the beginning of the world." And I think it's very exciting. And so Joe Biden, of course,
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that was some of the speech. Then he just lied, and I'll just very quickly pile in on
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what he said to the State Department. He said, he praised Afghanistan. I know you don't believe it,
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but he did, that he got out. Pride flag, gender studies, both then 50 million. He had a pride flag
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in a gender studies program at Kabul flying, but he didn't care about 13 people who died or 50
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billion in munitions that he abandoned. And then he praised, he praised, I could not believe how
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she must he was. He praised Iran for being weakened and Hezbollah weakened and Hamas weakened and
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a side falling. And all this happened despite not because of him. It was Israel that he thwarted at
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every turn. So he paid $6 billion for hostages and fueled Iran. He lifted the embargo and gave him
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$100 billion in oil revenue. He begged, got down his knees please. Can we get back in the Iran deal?
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He told Israel not to respond in kind to the Iranian 500 project idols they sent on to occasion.
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He said, don't take out the hierarchy. Don't don't kill Nasrullah. Don't take out
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these people at home. He did all of that and yet he was taking care, taking credit for Netanyahu's
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work in the Midwinter. He said, it's so shameful, shameful. Everything about it was shameful.
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And then just to finish Jack, now we hear and we can get into that. Why are we hearing all this
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stuff now? Why now now now? Oh, 50 people tell us he was seen on. 50 people tell us he was always
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demanded. And now we hear that Speaker Johnson went in a room with him and he said,
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everybody get out and he says to Johnson, what do you want? And Johnson says, will you shut down
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all the liquid national gas export terminals in my state? And you had bragged that you were going
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to help Europe withstand this Ukrainian war and the subsequent related closure of natural gas
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imports which they've been on from Russia. And now we can't send him any. And Joe Biden said,
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he said he didn't do it. He said he didn't do it. Well, who did?
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Can you imagine Trump Trump did that? And then the other the final thing I'll shut up is he says
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Jack yesterday, well, yeah, that 25th of the way. Equal when I get borrowed from my wife and I
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the 28th of men at the Equal Wives have men and women. They said, oh, the lamb. And he actually put
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that in writing. That's treason. That's insurrection. Words was chaining.
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Our list chain he would be tweeting or considering her and all those people. Where's Nancy Pelosi?
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That present of the United States took a inner defunct failed ERA that had been declared null
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and void when it it's the time expired. 42 years ago. 42 years ago. And by executive fit,
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he claims that it is now the law of the land. Can you imagine if don't come to that? Yeah.
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And you know, one said really a thing about it. Well, some people have said some of that precedent.
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Jack, they said a precedent that you can try. Why don't they impeach him right now?
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Have a special Sunday session and impeach him and then try him as a private citizen as they did at 12.
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Well, it's not only if you if you look at what Mike Speaker Johnson said in the totality of it was he
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thought Biden really didn't remember that in just evidence of him being a, you know, daft.
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But since he is daft and others, as you referenced, Jack Reed, the senator from
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Rhode Island saying we need two neurosurgeons to prove that this guy isn't, you know, Kuku Bird back
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in the summer. Nevertheless, Victor, there have been people like Kristen Gillibrand,
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the senator from New York, who is saying, ah, so it is now the law of the land. So he's,
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I'll give him, give Biden this. He's, he's nuts, right? But what about the people that aren't,
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nuts that are taking the nutty illegal crazy thing he said and now trying to say it is the law
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of the land. What he basically exactly and on the natural gas, he's basically saying to Speaker
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Johnson that a bunch of people that are wacko green people said to themselves, he's seen it and he's
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needing office. So let's draw up an executive order and just put it on his nose and say, this is
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going to create a green utopia, Joe, sign it that he did. And then they, they said, do you realize that
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you put up thousands of people out of work and you're costing Europe, it's winter show, it's winter
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over there. And they're not going to get natural gas. Do you know what you're doing to the lives of
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people? These people don't care. You know, it's so much like Joe Robins said about Newsom. They don't
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care about people. When they were talking to Newsom about the fire and he was trying to explain,
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do you remember what he did? He went like this, Joe. Yeah. Oh my gosh. What was that? I don't think he
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had some nervous. I don't want to make fun of people. Well, I mean, Donald Trump did that making
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fun of someone. Yeah. Wasn't Trump like this. They said, Oh my gosh, he's making fun of disabled
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people. That Speaker was, but it was, yeah, they don't care about people. It's kind of like the
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third man. You know the scene where where Orson Wells and Joseph Cotton are up in the up in the
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Ferris wheel. And and Orson Wells character says, would you care if one of those little dots down
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there disappeared? I mean, so from their height, they don't care about the dots. They just don't.
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there's going to be a market for movies like this absolutely. People do not want to have any more
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girlfriend and then they have a long two hour long but whether they should have kids in the age of
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global warming. And I was waiting for the Colonel Vindeman story. Yeah. Yeah. Great.
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Hey Victor picking up excuse me picking up on the sonility issue and you think of when
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grandma who's got dementia all of a sudden her will she passes away her will is read they realized
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will was signed you know one week before she kicked the bucket by some nefarious nephew held her hand
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and the and these things go to go my own friend. I've seen that happen in my own friend. Okay well
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it's it's totally fine that the the the compass meant us if it's applicable to the estate of a farmer
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not or anybody. Why isn't that applicable to the United States of America? I don't know.
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I don't know. I do not know. And then I I superimpose all of this. This is why the left has zero
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credibility. They had bandiedly some part time uh psychiatrist or psychologist at Yale go lecture
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to senate that don't pump me an intervention spray packet. She wrote an edited book and then they
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had and that prompted I guess it was Andrew McCabe and Bob wasn't seeing the deputy attorney general
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they in-term FBI box. Now should you wear the the wire or should I wire one of this has to catch
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him in his dementia so we go to the cabinet go to Mike Pence the cabinet members and get a
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25th amendment that that's what they were trying to do and then yet I haven't heard have you heard
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Dr. Wolves and seats say work or Andrew McCabe on just did so and also physician that's seen and I
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think it is. Right. See I haven't heard work say anything that's what as would capes say you know what
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I think you need to get a wire and and trapezole and get that on record. Maybe James Coney couldn't
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come forward say you need to have a private conversation with you like I did with Trump. Tell
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him he's now under investigation just and then go out and your FBI vehicle more moralized it
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and then link it to the New York Times. I work with me. So no they don't they don't they don't know
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that yeah these people are but it's by the way Victor you started this conversation about the farewell
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speech going after Biden's stressing of oligarchy what what in Greek is oligarchy what what is the meaning?
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It's a term oligost means the few and a quartet it means the rule and so in Greek city states
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there was either demo crash the democrat here that means the rule of the day most of the people
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that means a lot of people so usually there's a property qualification so if you have a city state
00:26:08
of 20,000 citizens at Athens they could all they could all participate and an oligarchy might have
00:26:14
5,000 participate 500 and they both were in opposition I'm doing this in amplitude so I hope it
00:26:23
sounds convincing they were they were in opposition to aristocracy crap the aristocracy that is the best
00:26:31
people that's their term for landed a noble title the elite the elite by birth so they aristocrats
00:26:40
and it's it's a very rare word in Greek controversy that's the rule of the people who taught us
00:26:47
our wealth theocracy they don't they don't use the word in the United States of aristocracy because nobody
00:26:54
believes that Elon Musk is there or Mark Zuckerberg or Bessels because they were born into a third
00:27:01
generation IV leaving his post titled family but they do use the word oligarchy because there's
00:27:08
a few of them but it's a really in it's a misplaced term because oligarchy does not mean two or three
00:27:15
people it means an oligarchy is people have said it of the United States that the people with
00:27:20
money and influence a small number run the country that's an oligarchy I think that they want to be
00:27:27
exact if they were really they could say a plutocracy people who were multi-billionaires why don't they
00:27:34
say uh some some lazy one other word for you there's also an autocracy I think we are really an
00:27:41
autlosses the mall with the Romans called the turba the turba so the autocracy is a rule of the mall
00:27:52
red surfaces the people who are on the dole and they determine budgets and spending and they have
00:27:58
to be entertained by TV all day pizza I think we're really run by by a bureaucracy yes so they're all
00:28:07
the bureau off the good French board it came out in the 19th century yeah it's it's uh it's funny
00:28:14
we've been run the last four years it's not funny by by someone who sold out cheap you know he was
00:28:22
his references to oligarchy were about wealth and billionaires but uh I maybe this resentment
00:28:28
resentment there that he could have I mean he cashed in look he cashed in but he cashed in really
00:28:34
cheap given what I I guess he could have gotten away with 20 million dollars yeah they sold out the
00:28:39
country for 20 million bucks yeah remember I'm speaking and you're speaking right now I'm in the
00:28:46
West Coast obviously at about nine thirty in the morning on Sunday we've got about another 24
00:28:52
hour so don't underestimate Joe uh he can still give Jim Biden a pardon uh Ashley bad Biden
00:29:01
pardon a lot of people can still get parked he will he just gave one to Marcus Garvey uh who's been
00:29:08
dead a hundred years so he doesn't know that though wait I'll not know that I uh he's he did sell the
00:29:17
country out it on two cents on the dollar that not that it would have been better if he charged more
00:29:22
but right he said he said a sprinkle human being I hate to say that it sounds cruel for someone who's
00:29:28
senile but he was mean as entire life he's a racist he always said what we've talked about that so often
00:29:35
help me all the racist vocabulary and then when he he's a hypocrite and a liar when he keeps saying
00:29:41
I can't take this away I try to unite the people no you did not you're semi-fascist ultra mega
00:29:47
phantom of the opera speech was horrific you attack the supreme court you're vitriol against the
00:29:53
members led to people showing up at their houses including the assassin you did all of that you really
00:30:00
weakened the court you bragged that they had uh that you had counsel student loans which was
00:30:06
unconstitutional and then you bragged that you nullify their order and found ways to circumvent our
00:30:12
own supreme court I could go on but he was really a mean person and well I'm glad he's gone I don't
00:30:20
wish be able to him but he's going to he's one of these people who he's going to be a miller he's
00:30:25
going to be miller film or eyes very quickly you're going to not going to hear much out out of him
00:30:30
Nancy Pelosi's daughter was giving a parking shot it's a nice little term for the parkans that when
00:30:37
they would ride their horses they would come up to the Roman army and then have the Roman army
00:30:43
come out of formation to charge and then they would turn around and think they're
00:30:47
well whether we're riding after them but my point is that she as a Pelosi's faded into obscurity the
00:30:54
daughters that it was really mean that Joe uh Jill Jill would not talk to Nancy wouldn't show up
00:31:00
where Nancy was and this was so mean because Jack when Joe had no money as a junior center he went
00:31:10
out to see the policies in San Francisco and guess what they did they loaned him it their car so Joe
00:31:16
could ride ride around San Francisco how did he repay that 50 years later how did she he didn't speak
00:31:26
to her his wife was mean to Nancy for staging the coup that got rid of it lady lady Mcbiden she
00:31:35
lady Mcbide call their lady Mcbide cat fired I could do so sexist to say Nancy Pelosi versus Joe Biden
00:31:42
who would win that one no I think Nancy if she could pick up her walker and use it as a club she might
00:31:50
she might get away in an operation somebody wrote me a neat email Jack that now that we know
00:31:56
it's kind of like the old Soviet Union when they wanted to get rid of somebody on a plane and you
00:32:03
you know some people when they threw away their boarding pass never showed up well Nasty's not showing
00:32:10
up and Mike Pence's wife it's not showing up and Jill Biden I don't know if she is or not but
00:32:19
Michelle Michelle Obama's not showing up in the person wrote and said Victor is this a coincidence
00:32:27
something and they were serious something bad is going to happen that's why they moved it indoors
00:32:33
yeah well there was some security but they had the Iranian president cat pronounce his name and
00:32:41
said that's actually an Armenian ending to it and he said he gave an interview and he said something
00:32:48
to the effect what we don't want bomb we're for peace we see our hostilities with Israel and
00:32:57
cessation we never tried to kill Donald Trump we don't want to kill Donald wonder why that's happening
00:33:05
why is all this happening I just don't understand it it's all happening from soup dog to the president
00:33:11
of Iran to Mr. Trudeau to my gosh the the whole country of the Assad of the Assad's
00:33:19
discombobulates everything it's just it's like the world upside down and the British are planning to
00:33:26
Georgetown well it's beautiful in its way to watch I think Victor. I'm going to mention Obama
00:33:35
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we're back with the victor davis handsen show recording on
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sunday january 19th this episode is up on the 21st Tuesday the first full day of the Trump 47th
00:37:23
presidency victor's got a website the blade of persias I heartily recommend you'll check it out
00:37:31
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00:37:38
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00:37:47
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00:37:57
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00:38:03
people I'm sorry xx and then the ultra articles which he does twice a week for the blade of persias
00:38:11
and a weekly video for the blade of persias which you can access if you're a subscriber now don't
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you like the new megan kelly for podcasts well I she reminds me of a carnivore that she gets these
00:38:27
yeah they're kind of bullet bully people oh she's she carves them up she's terrific but I just wish you
00:38:35
know I would I just wish the blue I know lingo would just be careful we were criticized by a
00:38:43
reference for using an f your work wants I think we said the f word as you may I never word
00:38:51
yeah yeah yeah I don't vote papers I'm very careful you you are a very nice woman came up to me
00:38:59
when I was speaking in Los Angeles not too long ago so she really liked her podcast because her
00:39:06
ten-year-old daughter worked out and could listen to the language right and I I'm very conscious of
00:39:12
the audience well I will say for let me just say folks go subscribe go victorhanson.com and that's the
00:39:20
blade of persias Megan Kelly well she's yeah I I'm very she's done a great she she done a great
00:39:26
service she's very well prepared and she she dissects these things and need to be dissected yeah she's
00:39:33
she's she is a fearless and I think open-minded and fearless and that's a very appealing thing
00:39:39
and unlike scallotor she's beautiful oh mama me
00:39:46
okay so she doesn't add it she she is beautiful actually when she was at Fox and Andy McCarthy
00:39:51
my our friend and my old colleague at Nashoree would go in and I say Andy I don't know how you
00:39:55
sit across but she I mean she's just stunning you know that's something you know this she doesn't
00:39:59
remember but in two thousand three during the Iraq war I'm trying to remember the press conference
00:40:07
was such a wonderful person I feel so that I don't recall what you know and I think you knew him he
00:40:13
was the press secretary for George Bush and he was he had an ascended career and he got a foul
00:40:19
counsel and he died oh Tony Tony snow Tony Tony snow yeah oh Tony is great yeah yeah yeah yeah and he
00:40:27
breathed on in Saturdays they were talking about the war if they asked me for six Saturdays to go
00:40:33
into Fox and I remember I think they had just hired me I think it was Megan Kelly they just hired
00:40:41
you know I was up right I think illegal lands elite brains or maybe she was an intern or maybe she
00:40:46
was just busy and I just I remember saying to Tony snow wow that woman is very bright and very
00:40:52
yeah you were you were at the naval academy then why you were a busy professor like I realize that
00:40:58
after I can look back at that and I have been a busy professor in a number of places and that is the
00:41:06
was the most liberal left wing park and I have ever been I hope a Secretary Meg says I think
00:41:14
in the city there I think I told you once I was sitting there I want to professor who was a
00:41:19
uniform officer in the rain corps gave a talk on Yvijima where my father landed twice in a disabled
00:41:28
B-29 safest life for 25,000 landings I know some of them like his will repeat it right but this officer
00:41:35
said it was basically a worthless campaign they killed 25,000 Japanese for no reason they could have
00:41:41
been bypassed they had actually P-51s they stationed there my father said that not only when they
00:41:47
took the island were they able to save the crew but when they went into Japan they were escorted
00:41:55
most of the way from Yvijima on and that saved lives but he gave this talk to that was basically
00:42:03
that we were racists that we just wanted to kill Asian people I got so angry that I got up
00:42:11
and there was this I was just my it was like my first week there and then there was this weird
00:42:15
professor Chinese American knock-jong you I didn't know him and he just got up and he said you don't
00:42:23
know any of the sources to this speaker and this Victor Hanson and I will be evening so we got
00:42:31
up and left and I turned him and I exploded Frenchy in concept one I said Miles Mouchon I think
00:42:39
this will be the start of a beautiful relationship and for one year we were best friends we ain't
00:42:45
every day we're still very close friend when he was a wonderful guy but that's a type of thing
00:42:50
that that I remember not that there weren't great people there but my gosh I thought
00:42:56
these four big shipment they're just getting this revisionist yes yeah well we we are going to
00:43:04
cap this intro to the second segment of today's podcast just by said I will say because it's
00:43:11
we kind of got off on vulgarity that even off camera off audio Victor Victor is is not blue yeah
00:43:23
there's no mf whatever coming out of my mother my mother we were driving you somebody once and my
00:43:30
dad said my butt hurts he was driving okay and we had an old 50 for Chevy pickup with the 50s you
00:43:38
know the windows in the corner yeah yeah he was a 55 six it's all bumpy with wires in the seats and
00:43:45
one of the wires came out and she said Bill I just appreciated that in front of the boys
00:43:53
you don't use that type of language yeah and my grandfather Victor her father I asked him when
00:43:58
I was like 14 I said what the hell's going on out here when I was trying to use a Victor don't disappoint
00:44:06
being right I don't use that language on this one yeah that reminds me we'll get to get your thoughts
00:44:15
on time of victory I quickly let's Michael man case that national review and Mark Stein whatever
00:44:20
this free speech case gone off at 13 years and and national review actually got a bit of a victory
00:44:26
in this regard a few weeks ago the law the judge said part of its legal bills had to be paid by man
00:44:33
but when this first began and I was doing fundraising for national review we had an online campaign
00:44:39
that to you know donate money to fight this case and because we make kick Michael man in the
00:44:44
Haney and the and the first hearing in the court in Washington the man's attorney was lamenting
00:44:55
that publisher Fowler said that we're going to kick him in the Haney and the judge started laughing
00:45:02
anyway yeah use use children's words I'm a little disturbed sometimes when I don't care but
00:45:11
if you know it's our national politicians they use the S H I T word now just like it's anything
00:45:17
well it always conjures up yeah so I don't like that I mean I prefer that I ride it I know my wife
00:45:25
is now saying be careful Victor I hear you say all sorts of yes I give them five that sometimes
00:45:31
to you oh let me get you cursing let me let me get you blue let's talk about Barack Obama so he has
00:45:39
since 2008 with a four-year period and that period of what Trump's presidency he was he was very
00:45:46
active to to dismantle it he has been the force of the Democrat party for 16 years is that the Obama
00:45:57
era over may not be what are your thoughts Victor well everybody always goes back to that original
00:46:03
start for John Gill episode where the person is drugged and there's they go a planet and he's
00:46:11
used a national social spirit armistead a hand but he has handlers that's what Biden was John
00:46:18
Gill and the Obama's and their team that were infiltrated I can use that term into the Biden
00:46:25
inner circle with help from Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders black caucus wing they ran the country
00:46:33
and they ran it into the ground but the Obama's themselves then made a strategic move along with Nancy
00:46:42
Pelosi to look to and Chuck Trumor they perfect Trumor to get rid of Joe I'm not sure the Obama's wanted
00:46:49
come all up I know at one time somebody's gonna say well Victor he said she was a hot or good-looking
00:46:55
attorney general year and he did but he had talked to her more than five minutes so he knew that she
00:47:00
was in it I don't know Stacey Abrams maybe I mean there were three people do you remember when Joe
00:47:06
said he wanted a black bike president and they mentioned three people you know who one of them was
00:47:11
the mayor of Los Angeles so the communist mayor what's now I'm gonna leave it to our audience to
00:47:19
decide who would have been worse Kamala Harris Karen Bass and the third one was Stacey Abrams the
00:47:27
real governor the election denialist who just her pack just got fine or what 300 thousand dollars
00:47:33
were intellectual I mean for election fraud so that was the choice but the Obama's were behind that
00:47:40
and they made the strategic decision to use their gravitas so I guess I don't know if they're living
00:47:48
together because there are rumors now that they've had marital problems but let's just for the sick
00:47:53
of arguments say that Barack flew out from the Oahu mansion on the beach and Michelle flew out
00:47:59
from the calorama beach after she locked out locked up the more this manure to stay and they get
00:48:07
the campaign tripped separately and then they did their what they always do Barack Obama got some
00:48:12
African-American young people together and said you don't know what you're doing and you were falling
00:48:17
into a trap of being sexist and massages that old Marxist dialectic the people are diluted by
00:48:25
religion or any of the opiate of the masses so that's what he did and then he put his credibility
00:48:31
on mine and so did she she called it down from repeatedly a racist there was no evidence for that
00:48:38
it was very embarrassed and then what happened was it down from just days after the Obama's had put
00:48:44
their credibility on the line down front got the highest number of black voters probably since
00:48:52
the 1940s or even higher maybe as high as Ike on maybe higher I haven't looked at Ike's percentages
00:48:59
but and Hispanics higher than almost anybody maybe even higher than George W. Bush if you actually
00:49:06
look at ticket estates and so they were kind of discredited discredited because they didn't produce
00:49:12
discredited because it came off as they are talking down to people sanctimoniously so and they had
00:49:21
tension over this so Michelle did not show up at the Carter funeral because she did not want to get
00:49:29
near-dome call and I don't think Jill was Jill there I can't remember but if she was she didn't get
00:49:37
near-dome or didn't she didn't maybe she thought I don't know if she had a plastic glove on when she
00:49:43
didn't she she jill Biden sat stonely next to Kamala Harris yes that's what it was back then so
00:49:53
then to say Mike Pence's wife didn't want to touch go all right so but anyway jill
00:50:00
by a Barack Obama was joking around the whole time I actually kind of against the grain of
00:50:06
the solemnity the solemn nature of a funeral but they were laughing and that got Michelle even angrier
00:50:13
we got a lot of people on the left very angry and after all they had a point how can you call
00:50:18
somebody a racist a Hitler like fanatic a dictator like Joe Scarborough and those people did and then
00:50:26
and the answer is people to victor the answer is he's president of the United States and
00:50:33
Barack Obama who cooked up in the Oval Office we should remember it was before before Trump took office
00:50:41
and he cooked up the FBI surveillance along with and the steel dossier and he knew as he left
00:50:49
office that James Colme had hired or was going to hire Christopher Steele and then Brennan
00:50:55
discussed that CIA involvement in the Oval Office we know that these all the principles in the
00:51:03
government side uh Colme, Brennan, Clapper, Bruce and Nellie or James Baker at the FBI Council
00:51:13
and Roman K all of them were Obama people and so he understands what the president can do to hurt
00:51:22
somebody and again everybody should keep this in mind they project so all of these people
00:51:29
that are making their hosh to Marlago or they're trying to kiss up to don't Trump they're
00:51:34
their premise is we know what we did to him we know we said about him we knew how we tried to
00:51:40
destroy him and we know that if we were now in an ascended powerful position I wish we were but
00:51:47
we're not but if we were him and we had suffered what we did to him he and we were him he would go
00:51:54
after us legitimately so and therefore we're terrified of him and I private citizen
00:52:01
Barack Obama do not want somebody from the national archives topping up and said you know
00:52:07
I was silenced all those years but you know he didn't bring he didn't give us the stuff we
00:52:13
when we wanted it or I was in the CIA and we were snooping on people we shouldn't have
00:52:19
and Stefan Harper and somebody from the FBI said well that order came down from they don't want any
00:52:25
of that stuff and so that Barack Obama smart so he was trying to you know I like Donald Trump
00:52:31
and the other people are not smart and so yeah that's that explains Mark Zuckerberg you know he's
00:52:41
spring he's blaming DI now on what's her name sent you know that the well-known Facebook
00:52:50
CEO oh the one that got yes fired yeah you know yeah they're blaming DI he's blaming that and then
00:53:01
all of these people understand they're they're in their minds they're saying do we really want people
00:53:06
like Peter Till and Elon Musk they have the insight Larry Ellison people like that have been
00:53:15
pretty strong supporting Donald Trump for at least more than a year we want them to have the
00:53:20
inside track so we want to have we want to broaden the field and Trump wants to broaden the field
00:53:25
but again it's the idea that a lot of these people are worried that Trump might do to them what
00:53:33
they try to do yeah we do gotta remember one thing that when if we take back and we go back to about
00:53:40
January 20 just about this time of the year four years ago we were in the aftermath of January 6
00:53:47
and Google and Apple and Facebook conspired to destroy part of their apartment that was an
00:53:59
upstart our alternative to Facebook and Twitter and remember that it for a brief moment it was
00:54:09
signing up millions of people and it was breaking down their capacity to hire them and then suddenly
00:54:15
those three consortia conspired to deny app access and destroyed that company and that was
00:54:22
a fifth time they and they had billions of dollars to destroy part of their good friend of mine Rebecca
00:54:29
Mercer they destroyed their company and so Joe Biden was absolutely happy with that so when he
00:54:36
lectures about all of our keeps and monopolies it's only because he feels that he doesn't have them
00:54:42
at his disposal or the left because he lost complete control yeah well you know the upside as
00:54:50
frustrating as it is to see a story about Bill Gates having a great three hour meal thinking this
00:54:57
guy has done so much not only hostility towards Trump and Republicans and conservatives but generally
00:55:04
the world whose philanthropy to try and spread this one world ism and and one of the leading voices
00:55:12
for the COVID-19 vaccine and and all this oppression that came around that but all that said or
00:55:22
blathered I should say in my case we I think Trump when he said success will be the best revenge that's
00:55:32
probably the more motivating factor in his mind yeah I just want to come out I think that's why people
00:55:37
look cited because whatever the particular area of interest or expertise there's people right now
00:55:44
millions of people saying I can frack I can frack I can frack I can produce 25 million barrels I can
00:55:50
get natural gas I can supply your I can build ships I can build more cars I can get I can revive
00:55:57
the nuclear industry I can get precious metals for batteries I can open them online I can go in and
00:56:03
get Latin, Greek and traditional history and English back into the prep schools the high schools
00:56:10
you know I can everybody in their own according to the station feels that there's all this pin-up talent
00:56:15
and energy in the United States yeah they've been told don't do that you can't do that you're racist
00:56:20
you're gonna move up if you're transphobic you might not and you can't and they're just tired of it
00:56:24
they want to get the animal spirits more of a set free and he's and Trump's idea is kind of like a
00:56:30
ringmaster and he just he just come in and he's telling us 13 cabinet members be loyal yeah no no
00:56:39
Rex Tillers and no John Bolton no anonymous just be loyal follow the agenda and let it go let open
00:56:46
it up yeah and let's see what America can do it's like 1941 I I remember a guy from a national
00:56:53
review cruise 2016 right after the election and he was so pumped he was small businessman in Tennessee
00:57:00
I forget his name but he he said free on his back baby so whatever business he had needed refrigerated
00:57:08
trucks and this was essential that that that with Trump's election he anticipated the restrictions
00:57:16
on free on being removed and he said I'm gonna I just bought like made an order of four or five
00:57:21
neutral now you know small thing it's not very small city that's funny you mentioned it that
00:57:27
California just suspended its mandate of outlawing diesel truck produced before a certain day you
00:57:34
had to put this you know debt or whatever it was that urine your via into your tank and I had a
00:57:41
diesel truck you have to put it blue stuff called blue when you put it in and it neutralizes supposedly
00:57:49
the diesel but under the the new California guidelines your truck had to burn at very high temperatures
00:57:56
that's why you see a lot I had a good friend I won't mention this last name Gary who wrote me about this
00:58:02
very eloquently and showed that there's a lot of problems problems the diesel truck
00:58:07
industries having and truckers in general under these new mandates with turbos and especially the
00:58:13
temperatures that are required in California and we and this had a bearing on the 100 fire trucks
00:58:20
that were in maintenance they had a very yes I have a beautiful diesel I had 25,000 miles on
00:58:28
that echo diesel it was a wonderful truck as long as you didn't thrive uphill right at 105 or
00:58:35
try to tell anything because they burn so hot right and so that's suspended of people and it's not
00:58:42
just academic I had a very a good friend I won't mention his name but he rented a portion of our
00:58:48
farm with one of my siblings sold out so I saw him almost every day one of my walks and he was farm and
00:58:54
he you know it's tough to farm especially renting property from this absentee loan owner that bought
00:59:02
one of my brother's porcelain and he had just showed me this beautiful truck he had rehab a diesel truck
00:59:08
big flatbuck I think it's a two-ton and he was explaining you could put his equipment on and he got
00:59:14
he got it and then I saw him about a year later and he was just so too long he said I'm going to have to
00:59:21
to destroy that truck or go somewhere I don't want even the facts and he'll take it out of spade and
00:59:27
sell it they they bargain because of the engine it's got it and that wasn't the reason but that was
00:59:34
one of the reasons killed himself oh my gosh yeah he said I can't make it that was very tragic because
00:59:41
everything was conspiring against it the sun's a wonderful guy too I'm very lucky his sun is
00:59:46
for me but he had a very valuable John Deere tractor and because renters you know they don't have
00:59:56
one just one place they can store their equipment so he would do his tractor work
01:00:00
he didn't know because I live you know I have all these criminals now I come and dump stuff and
01:00:06
steal so out in the vineyard he tried to hide it and then they stole the batteries so I just said
01:00:10
don't look come into my shed and put it next to the house and he did and and what with this was a
01:00:18
hundred thousand dollar brand new John Deere was a wonderful tractor and it just sat there for two
01:00:24
months and I thought wow where is he and I didn't realize he'd killed himself and his family didn't know
01:00:29
where he was he did and yeah it's what I'm getting at again is that when all of these people get together
01:00:37
in little rooms and they make these decisions most of these these stupid arrogant over educated
01:00:44
no common sense they destroy lives and that that's what I get so angry about Los Angeles when I see
01:00:50
all of those four people and they're whole it is just look those homes are just dressed in like
01:00:59
our Hiroshima like and then you think oh I'm going to jockey to Ghana oh I call in a bomb threat
01:01:07
haha oh I let the reservoir be dry since February haha oh I'm making priceless hallways like oh I'm a
01:01:14
D.I. I had 70 percent what if a man I can't carry a man and he has no place to be there when I go
01:01:19
to the door oh I'm going to look like all of that are Gavin Newsom oh the reservoirs are full
01:01:26
no they're not Gavin I just went by Pacheco at 70 percent full Folsom's 37 percent full we're
01:01:33
in a drought right now you're still letting water out you should be spanking every drop but when they
01:01:40
when they act that way or they do this with their shoulders oh it's a local problem it's they don't
01:01:47
care about you let's think about the left it's all I mean they love humanity in the abstract and they
01:01:53
hate humans in the concrete by the way Bill Maher made a funny little comment about the fire
01:02:00
as he said you people aren't able to escape it but because of California's high speed rail
01:02:06
and that as you've talked about many times Victor that project is is I saw a headline from the
01:02:14
from the LA Times from last March or May despite some progress states high speed rail is 100 billion
01:02:23
short and many years from reality I don't think it's the whole thing was supposed to be up and running
01:02:31
by now from Sacramento to San Francisco and from the San Joaquin Valley over Pacheco to the Bay area
01:02:40
on all the way down through to Pacheco like it's 15 years and it was supposed to be done for I think 80
01:02:46
billion I think they spent they claim they spent 17 or 20 billion they have they spent more than that
01:02:53
with and one I don't think they've laid more than 10 feet of rail to they've been caught up in
01:03:04
imminent no no main lawsuits like you wouldn't believe they could have taken the right
01:03:09
away of the Santa Fe and these parts the Santa Fe there is a right of way just expanded that rail
01:03:16
and improve the rail line and got it up to 70 or 80 miles an hour and had two tracks they have one
01:03:22
so you have these waiting trains when you cross over they didn't want to do that they had to be
01:03:27
that and so it got over the skyline of Fresno there's this huge bridge and the biggest problem right
01:03:35
now is I'm exaggerating is graffiti it's graffiti graffiti the former of Fox Nation or Logan came
01:03:44
out here to do a thing on it so she came out about four years ago and she said my god it's got
01:03:51
graffiti all I said yes it's brand new too they and it just sits there like Stonehenge and so I mean
01:03:58
they had all these right they instant they've issued communicate we've hired this percentage of
01:04:03
disabled this percentage of gay this percentage of primes this well they have a whole di thing
01:04:08
but it's it's never going to be done and then the worst thing about it is if it were to be done
01:04:16
from Bakersfield to Merced and you look at the operating cost it's going to be union public
01:04:21
unit you till it unions it's going to lose money every day oh my gosh yeah absolutely look at the
01:04:28
the the sin that's the sin of co-mission and then you look at the sin of omission you have
01:04:33
parallel some in many places to it or perpendicular the 99 freeway from Bakersfield to Sacramento
01:04:43
and per mile driven it is the most deadly in the United States there's still places where there's
01:04:49
only two lanes in each direction and it's prone to fog and it's superimposed on a state where 27
01:04:57
percent of the population was not born in the United States so they have different ideas about
01:05:01
driving yeah and and he could have made that three lane freeway all the way for a fraction of what he
01:05:07
spent and then of course we we had $7.5 billion most of it for at least almost three billion for
01:05:16
reservoirs he didn't build one reservoir he used 500 250 million from that build to blow up three four
01:05:23
reservoirs as I keep saying so everything he touches he's the on Midas touch everything he has
01:05:30
to have a new some yes he turns it to draw us yeah and Stonehenge is one of his he didn't create it he
01:05:38
inherited and he made it he touched it like this touch draws draws anything that the golden state
01:05:45
touches it turns it draws yeah well Victor caught iron tuff
01:05:50
kryptonite I don't know hey when we we're going to take one last break and since this episode
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we're back with the victor davis Hanson show so victor two things you know tell us again if please
01:09:05
the it's a charming story but I think also an important story and then if you maybe cap it off
01:09:12
with what would I guess what would martin luther king and martin luther king ism if there is such a
01:09:19
thing would how would that go over with the america's black leadership today by black leadership
01:09:27
i don't mean tamasoul and and shall be stealing i mean the congressional black caucus that may or
01:09:33
bass used to be that of yes well i mean these most famously quoted as its content of our character
01:09:42
not the color of our skin that was part of his dream that his children would be judged on the
01:09:47
content of their character not the color skin and the tragedy to answer your second question first
01:09:52
deals that the third generation of black leadership still believes that it's the color of your skin
01:09:59
that matters the most in that people like martin with the king of states that can't
01:10:04
content of a character or sell outs or they're deceived or they suffer from false consciousness
01:10:09
so it's tragedy that we reverted return the civil rights movement just when it was working
01:10:15
into a tribalist movement so we're all going to be in parts of the identity politics tribal
01:10:21
choosing i say of our choosing because in a multi-racial society
01:10:28
i've had at least three cases instances of people that i'm known
01:10:32
in the last three or four years that i had no idea they were African-American
01:10:37
i had no idea a person who's very good i mean he's one of the bet i think he's the best student
01:10:44
employee i've ever had so bright and he's so he just casually remarked at his African-American
01:10:53
i didn't have any idea so the point is it's we went from content of our character to DNA badges
01:11:01
oh by the way i said that once to a student and he said that he got a DNA test it was from india
01:11:08
and sent it in that he was stark and he had the DNA but he he put with his application
01:11:14
so it's not it so i remember that the old days from the civil rights movement my parents
01:11:22
my mom was a democrat my dad was they were well i don't know what you call it
01:11:26
hairy Truman democrats former democrats they've gone to university they they were kind of the
01:11:33
upward mobility they thought that the country was you know they love Kennedy and everything
01:11:38
and so when the civil rights came when there was something called dollars for democrats
01:11:45
then my mom had put us in her old car i had no money they lived in eleven hundred square foot
01:11:50
oh no it was about nine hundred square feet my brother still has it and we my mom wasn't working
01:12:01
she had three kids she lost a child so she was kind of still worried about that i remember hearing
01:12:06
story my sister died she had German measles she's pregnant and then my father was just farming cotton
01:12:17
and then he was teaching part-time at really a really college so we had we were living on a corner
01:12:23
of the ranch and helping my grandfather and anyway make home so sure we would go around in
01:12:29
to what was then the barrio today it's the whole city or a mexican american but then there was a
01:12:34
smaller and knock on doors to try to raise one dollar for dollars for democrats and that was
01:12:41
the nineteen sixty election for looking back i think i would have voted for Richard next
01:12:46
now but jf carry i'm sure i was even given what happened book later tragically the both of them
01:12:53
but nevertheless i was but in that period i was eleven years old and of course Martin Luther King
01:12:59
announced they were the grace of cathedral i think it's an episcopate brilliant church or anglican
01:13:05
church i don't you can define the difference to me and their closer relationship to catholicism
01:13:13
then Evangelical Protestantism but in a case the church had either been just i know had taken years
01:13:21
to be built it was either just bill or rehabilitated but it was a big event centuries ago and they could
01:13:26
not believe that Martin Luther King so my mom had a friend that was the daughter of someone who was
01:13:33
the dean of women i think at college and she she called up and said why don't we go why don't you
01:13:40
all drive up from salmon and we'll go to the grace of the eagle so we all got up at four in the
01:13:47
morning and put on a little fun lord a little clip on ties i really think it was eleven i think this
01:13:52
was march i think jack actually it was sixty years ago this march sixty five i remember the day
01:13:57
it was march of sixty five and i put a little clip on tie we had corduroy coats we got all the three
01:14:04
with that we all got into this little five four four bubble for the hundred thousand miles
01:14:10
no seagulls so my dad put it over the thing and then uh we stopped before we did in lost bayonets
01:14:19
and my father called the woman who was arranging to pick us and she said there's an African-American
01:14:24
family uh there's no car or car broke down they want to go so my dad then we got to San Francisco
01:14:33
uh we picked up the woman that was going and we didn't fit in the car but she had a car
01:14:39
so then we traded cars and we went out to hunters point and picked up two women
01:14:44
African-American women and then by this time we were late we would have been two hours early
01:14:49
but going around San Francisco picking up everybody so we get to brace up on the top of the hill
01:14:54
and we all get out and there's a huge line i could not believe it it's snake for i don't know
01:15:00
mile but we're in it and the woman who was escorting us to do so don't worry this thing is
01:15:07
a cathedral this is like Notre Dame it'll hold the whole city so we get out and we're right there
01:15:14
then i was kind of i had glasses nobody cares but in my family my two brothers were very
01:15:21
right but they were very athletic too my friend brother was a great baseball player
01:15:27
my soul's my older brother my but i wasn't i was left i had glasses the only one to work glasses
01:15:32
i was left and i wasn't bad now that i've participated but i was mediocre and i always want to read
01:15:38
books and they always say uh you know we want to play two on two baseball they had Victor mom he won't
01:15:44
play with us he's got his head in that stupid book and they were right about that so anyway we get
01:15:48
to the thing and they start to close the door right in front of my parents and they said no more
01:15:55
so my mom took both her hands and pushed me in and i almost fell over and i was locked in by myself
01:16:02
right by the door and it was i it was kind of i just remember the speech was that famous speech
01:16:09
that he gave on numeric if you're going to be a janitor you'd be the best janitor if you're going
01:16:13
to be a gardener then you'd be the best gardener whatever your station in life is you'd be the best
01:16:19
and let other people worry about whether you're you know black or sick and it was very um moving and then
01:16:28
at the end he walked around he didn't go down the aisle where everybody was important was he walked
01:16:34
around the periphery and so he as he walked around the periphery he stopped right by the door and there
01:16:40
was about four of us i was the only white person there and then he tapped his speech on the shoulder
01:16:46
like this hey you know thank you and then he walked on and then they opened the doors and my mother
01:16:52
said well what was it like they heard it outside on them she said now i know you're not going to
01:16:59
believe this victor but i pushed you because someday after i'm dead you will remember that more
01:17:04
so that was sweet yeah i remember it from my entire life it was it was really i remember my parents
01:17:13
they were so idealistic they were farmers they had no money and they were kind of caricature because
01:17:18
my mother had gone and my father gone to university pacific and then he got drafted or he joined the
01:17:26
marine corps then the so long story unit up in the army air force and then he on these horrific
01:17:32
missions over Tokyo and then my mom soon if she went up to follow him got a degree there then
01:17:37
then it started over another BA from Stanford and then she got it law degree almost never happened for
01:17:44
woman in 1945 and then they came back and they had all this education but no money and so my dad
01:17:51
didn't even he grew up in a form he was forming little cotton cotton up he had a 10 acre cotton
01:17:56
a lot and then he was coaching football and teaching at really then my mom what was he teaching it
01:18:03
really he he taught physical education and then he became an administrator of the night division
01:18:11
but he was a football coach okay of really high school and then really college for a while so i
01:18:16
remember growing and growing up and then he he got in a big argument with the president and then when
01:18:22
I was in high school there was somebody that my dad was all my mom there were all these champions
01:18:28
of lost cause saint june technique there was a guy who was kind of loud and but he was always
01:18:36
checking on everybody that if the coach came in late he was another coach and he would write it down
01:18:42
or if somebody thought he was always right but he was disruptive but and they fired him without
01:18:49
cause so then he came over to our house and my father had gotten along with great with everybody
01:18:55
and my mom said i wouldn't get involved and hear all of your friends or running a college or up
01:19:01
from maybe a presidency do not champion this guy she didn't know i and my dad goes what they're doing
01:19:07
my dad was huge he was six four two two so really so he championed this guy one thing led to another
01:19:16
and the president yelled at my dad my dad picked him up and held him up in the air for a minute
01:19:23
luckily he didn't get fired because my mom was even though she well she was a lawyer
01:19:28
so the result of all that was my dad went from this high administering the teaching
01:19:35
bone fed English and bone industry after so i was like the little bookworm so i'd come home
01:19:41
and he had these weird hours where he was doing night school so i would come up my school and he said
01:19:47
vector just in time i've got some exams for you and he'd have me like a hundred of bone
01:19:54
head English multiple choice and there was no scam plan like an idiot i would find all the football
01:20:02
players that i like they all took his class like a dad jimmy james jones he's got 68% he's my favorite
01:20:11
reedy call his football player look that little mark on that d a b c d i don't think he meant it i
01:20:18
think there's some there and he said well user judgment use discretion no preferences but go ahead
01:20:23
so i i i did all of this correcting and then yeah he bought a three three volume book called
01:20:29
English grammar that's how i remember English grammar because i read the whole thing and i talked
01:20:33
it with a pret-subject predicate the fact that you were looking for you were looking for your
01:20:39
versions of hanging chads back in a day i was i learned all about hanging chads so yeah
01:20:46
i have i don't know i don't want to get personal about your family but everybody believes there
01:20:51
is that food jack everybody believes they were blessed with appearance no not everybody believes
01:20:56
that well we are all blessed with parents so you believe it or not is the difference to worry so
01:21:02
yeah i mean i was one the lottery i had wonderful mother yeah yeah i worshiped them i don't know
01:21:09
if my siblings wishing to see reedy i was coming home well it's uh i did i don't want anything i
01:21:15
i was able to do was because of i think uh any regular listener to this podcast is uh that
01:21:23
very much comes through your your love for your your parents and all your family but including
01:21:29
including what do you have a crazy uncle luke or something like that or rodeo or dango dango dango
01:21:36
dango johnson i liked him but i was his favorite and i had a man and a man right now you got to open
01:21:43
around my arm why are you going to be a comian like a prince you're going to be a big comian about the
01:21:50
the dental crats they kill everything the dental crats god rest god rest all their souls fall
01:21:59
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uh i just thought that a shared fear of lonely the best years of our lives yeah it and the uh
01:22:36
was it mornal lawyer wasn't it yes she was a one of her husband would get a little out of it and
01:22:42
wrinkle and she was a long suffering why well she always had a smile on her face we would go somewhere
01:22:49
like a restaurant yeah and there would be somebody be ready be ready and they're wait this
01:22:54
my mom looks like mornal lawyer she turned to us oh my god here comes mission number fifty one
01:23:02
she got out of the v29s at 40 and now we've all he got eleven more missions and please
01:23:10
she said please bill don't say anything don't do it and he would get up so
01:23:15
mister i expect to go to a restaurant when you record the working people some courtesy and respect
01:23:21
and i haven't heard it in fact how you've been insulting now whatever you said or heard you say to
01:23:25
me and my mom would go like oh my god i was fine i would always hide onto the tape
01:23:32
there was a there was a great scene of the many great scenes in that movie with Dana Andrews'
01:23:39
back work and as a soda jerk and he and Harold oh if you get his last name who won the Oscar who had
01:23:46
the and he was got into it with a customer and and Dana Andrews clocked them into
01:23:56
oh you remember that scene very well you know that you know what that customer was he was a sheriff on
01:24:02
bananza oh sure yeah yeah and that guy was sort of the the representation of the early McCarthy
01:24:11
he was yeah it was very it's not a conservative film it's a great film it's wonderful film but
01:24:19
he was a great actor Dana Andrews yeah he was so was your Frederick March and and
01:24:25
Frederick March yes yeah a bit of a bit of a bit of a yeah Frederick March was a bit of a and
01:24:32
murder lawyer also they were they were people of the I don't know the left but they were left
01:24:37
of center definitely but somewhat you know they make great movies they great contributors to our
01:24:43
culture well he was he was Ronald Reagan's best man when Reagan married Nancy the second marriage
01:24:54
so yeah I was I thought that was fascinating just to not the long things but when Fritt you remember
01:25:03
the bridges of Tokyo Raymond bill rock hold was in it yes and Mickey Rooney and Grace Kelly and the
01:25:10
the old man they called him they headed the carrier that was Frederick March was I think so I
01:25:17
haven't seen the movies when I had that remember that I just said that because they faulted Reagan for
01:25:21
saying quote you know when he said when after bill hold and get securely come in the movie ends
01:25:27
he kind of says where do we get some where do we get such a miracle fly over hell and I'll come
01:25:34
back into this little place and land it and Reagan said something to the affect it was a great
01:25:40
speech he said where do we get such people and then they all said ah he's just quoting he's stealing
01:25:45
yeah yeah he a couple of the Frederick Henry Kissinger brought Frederick March's house in Connecticut
01:25:51
I say that right I know why I know that but that was a very disturbing movie because the the fear
01:26:01
of bill holding as a pilot very palpable and you know we see in Colorado remember they calling
01:26:11
them yeah yeah I think I told you once my father had this pilot his name was Alan me and that guy
01:26:19
was a genius and he figured out how to run the RPMs up high and hit the brakes and when they took
01:26:25
a lot of planes didn't make it off the runway at 10,000 which by the way they're clearing the jungle
01:26:30
right now Jack at 10,000 in the Mariana Islands and they're being discovering those 7,000 foot
01:26:36
about runways for b29 they're all overgrown with jungle nobody's seen them and they've
01:26:41
using GPS to find them and clear them because they're using dispersion tactics so if we get in the
01:26:48
war or tie one and rather than put a carrier out there we're going to put planes all over the
01:26:54
Mariana Islands around the island it's a great strategy but well this guy was a great pilot and
01:27:01
he was a civilian after flying over Fort, got his crew over 40 missions twice in Eva-Jima they
01:27:09
had all kinds of gear down and he went back to Korea just like bill holding and he flew another 40
01:27:15
mission dang you're right that's tough they shot down a lot of b29s in Korea I remember seeing him once
01:27:23
he had kind of a he collected furniture and stuff and sold it I know he had a I don't know what
01:27:29
with a furniture store but he would pull them to the speak he became from Oregon and he had kind of a
01:27:36
jump suit he's kind of heavy and I kind of set something to my mom once got that guy looks really weird
01:27:43
I was like 10 yeah man saved 11 people including your father and you're going to go up to him and say
01:27:51
I want to thank you mr. Elmer God bless mom yeah okay two things one I write civil thoughts a free
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Jalen Victor you've been terrific thanks for all the wisdom you share today thanks folks for listening
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