We’re closing out the year with an absolute legend.

For the final episode of the year, the podcast is joined by Bill Stevenson of Descendents / ALL — a drummer, songwriter, producer, and one of the most influential figures in punk and pop punk history.

Bill dives into the origins of Descendents, the band’s enduring legacy and how he sees their influence on modern pop punk. He also talks about his work as a producer at The Blasting Room, shaping records for countless bands, what touring looks like at this stage of life, and finding balance after decades on the road.

Along the way, there’s time for some unexpected but very on-brand detours into Monty Python, phall curries, and the humour that’s always been baked into punk culture.

A genuine honour and the perfect way to wrap up the year.

Chris and Nick also take a look back on 2025, sharing some of the highlights for the podcast (spoiler - Four Chord obviously included!). Favourite albums of the year etc are also discussed.