Two former USA Rugby captains come on to the podcast to discuss how they have prepared for life after rugby. The pair touch on the development of USA Rugby and their wish to see a home Rugby World Cup. Former Saracens legend, Wyles, delves in to the story of how he co-founded the well established brewery business, Wolfpack Lager, whilst talking about the importance of not having 'fear' of making mistakes in career transition. Ex Leicester Tigers and Cardiff Blues, Scully, meanwhile tells of how, and why, he set up the United States Rugby Players Association, whilst also talking about his wish to find a new purpose after his rugby playing days.