0:00 –0:35 — Intro + show rank
• Host intro, thanks to listeners for pushing the show into Spotify’s top five.
• Guest introduced: Retired FBI Special Agent Lorena Sierra.

0:35 –1:24 — What is a “special agent”? + how Lorena joined the FBI
• Clarifies there’s no difference — “special agent” is the official title.
• Lorena explains she was an accountant by training, joined the FBI during the 1980s hiring surge for financial expertise, and unexpectedly ended up at the Academy.

1:24 –2:50 — Early expectations vs. reality
• Expected desk/accounting work; quickly reassigned to undercover/field because her profile (Latina female) was a tactical asset.
• Discussion of being shifted from bookkeeping to undercover roles.

2:50 –5:22 — Paperwork and bureaucracy of investigative work
• Lorena highlights the massive load of reports and approvals required for fieldwork — “for every hour you’re out, you write many hours of reports.”
• Notes the Bureau’s bureaucratic structure and its impact on operations.

5:22 –7:12 — Era context: rivalry between agencies
• Conversation about 1980s tensions (FBI vs NYPD) during major organized crime cases (Gotti era) and how dynamics varied by office.

7:12 –11:00 — Casework focus: financial crimes and money laundering
• Lorena describes her progression into financial crimes, money-laundering investigations, and how complexity increased over time.
• Example: a shell “candy import” company used to launder drug money.

11:00 –14:30 — Undercover money operations — methods & intelligence gathering
• Explanation of undercover “money lady” role: carrying/dropping cash, giving test amounts (e.g., $50k) to trace laundering methods.
• How staged transactions and escorts produced intelligence on structuring and movement of funds.

14:30 –16:00 — Building trust and undercover roles
• The importance of relationships and trust to perform undercover buys, introduce “big guys,” and vouch for co-operators in operations.

16:00 –20:00 — Most impactful cases — anti-kidnapping work in Mexico
• Lorena describes anti-kidnapping work: advising victims’ families on negotiations, staying emotionally detached while supporting families.
• Shares a particularly heart-wrenching case: a family lost their father; the case left a lasting emotional impact.

20:00 –21:30 — Long-term impact: a life changed by one conversation
• A college student approaches an FBI booth years later claiming Lorena inspired him to join the Bureau after seeing how she comforted his sister during their worst days — demonstrates the human side and long reach of agents’ work.

21:30 –25:00 — Would she recommend the FBI today? (culture & politics)
• Lorena reflects on changes in the Bureau over time: love for the job and camaraderie, but concerns about increasing bureaucracy, politicization, and management decisions.
• She expresses reservations about advising someone to join the FBI today, given perceived deterioration and politicization.

25:00 –end — Final thoughts and emotional weight
• Reinforces the bittersweet nature of the work: the proud moments, the emotional toll, and the complexity of serving in a high-pressure, politically charged environment.

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