Today, Malcolm talks to theologian Murray Rae. Murray has written on forgiveness and sees it as a way of breaking out of the well-trod pattern of revenge. Murray draws on Jesus' example to offer us an insight into how forgiveness can open up a new sort of future for us, and for those who hurt us.

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