In this episode of The Men’s Therapy Podcast, host Marc Azoulay sits down with Jayson Gaddis. He is the founder of The Relationship School and a pioneer in men’s emotional health and relationship education. Gaddis opens up about his own journey, one marked by pain, disconnection, and a hard-earned path toward self-awareness.

“Pain got me into finally getting my own shit together,” Gaddis admits. At 29, after another breakup in a Whole Foods parking lot, he experiences a profound moment of clarity: “Maybe I’m the problem.” That realization sparks a turning point that led him to graduate school in psychology, a move that changed the trajectory of his life and career.

Gaddies suggests that most men interpret success as money, status, or control. It is often masked by deep-seated insecurity. “I was chasing validation on social media, chasing money, chasing approval,” he says. “And that outside-in approach was killing me.” His reflections form the foundation for an honest conversation about modern masculinity. It sheds light on the urgent need for men to confront their inner worlds.

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