An open mind that releases all assumptions is the pathway to a diversity of ideas. Science, spirituality, gender identity, queerness, human evolution- this episode delves into all of these topics and beyond, allowing us to drop preconceived notions about what we think we know. We welcome you to a profoundly unique discussion that explores the depths of a Pisces and Gemini mind that award-winning author, filmmaker, and producer Kristen Wolf embodies. 

Tune in as Debra and Kristen discuss how they create new realities by seeing the world through the eyes of an explorer, and offer permission to all people to open themselves up to the endless possibilities on this planet.

With strength and vulnerability, Kristen opens up about her own journey as a queer person and the development of her innate creative talent as a writer and producer. Her first novel, The Way, beautifully explores gender identity and divinity in a compelling way, with a twist that will blow the minds of readers and critics. It’s a novel that got the attention of O Magazine, which recommended The Way as a “title to pick up now.” Kristen’s second novel, The Escapement, has also won multiple awards and numerous accolades from readers and writers alike.

As an endless dreamer, Kristen has a special gift for getting people to push beyond boundaries of thought and expression; a very Pisces gift. Her honesty is penetrating yet gentle, and through her own explorations and writings, she shines a light on how one can cultivate a pathway of self discovery. With striking realness, Debra and Kristen dive into the fluidity of releasing attachment and avoiding the trap of fixed ideas.

This is a powerful conversation you’ll want to repeat again and again as it gently guides you to look beyond your own assumptions about truth and possibility. 

Key Highlights From The Episode

• Questioning what you think you know
• Approaching new things with a sense of wonder, creating new realities
• Queer identity and unpacking/celebrating the parts that are genuinely “you” 
• Assume anything is possible in all of science and spirituality
• Accept and explore the different sides of yourself, honor them in others

Timestamps

[1:21 ] Debra has been Kristen’s Astrologer for years 

[1:47 ] About Kristen’s Big Three in Astrology

[2:03 ] Kristen’s accomplishments in her own words

[3:28 ] Kristen describes her book, The Way 

[5:35 ] Debra explains Kristen’s imagination and how it connects to her chart

[6:40 ] Delving into the binary conversation and gender fluidity

[6:55 ] Debra describes Kristen’s gift of suspending the notion of time and assumed boundaries

[7:27 ] Debra discusses Kristen’s Astrological chart 

[9:04 ] What does Kristen read for fun? 

[9:50 ] Debra discusses the professional placements in Kristen’s chart

[10:36 ] The topics Kristen is interested in within the science journals she reads

[11:19 ] Kristen discusses her hard drive and RAM memory, how she synthesizes information

[12:31 ] Dismantling old constructs of society

[13:15 ] Kristen enjoys looking beyond assumptions, like a scientist

[13:47 ] You can’t find what you’re not looking for

[14:12 ] Sexuality and gender identification

[14:34 ] Kristen’s travels studying human mutations and abnormalities

[15:41 ] Something Kristen has wondered about with those who identify as they/them

[16:41 ] Science will eventually catch up to our feelings and instincts

[16:51 ] The human tendency to leap to conclusion and need everything to be clearly labeled in boxes

[17:04 ] The function of Astrology is the distinction of every human being allowed for diversity

[17:53 ] Debra asks Kristen about her gender identity and how it evolved

[18:19 ] Kristen’s Catholic upbringing 

[19:03 ] How the idea for The Way got started.

[19:20 ] Kristen being very spiritual as a child

[19:44 ] Kristen’s experience with hiding her sexuality and then coming out

[20:33 ] Kristen’s view of how queer people grow up as a version of themself

[21:36 ] Supporting people’s courage to give themselves permission to be who they are

[22:59 ] Kristen speaks about her most recent work on Broadway

[23:39 ] An off-Broadway musical called A Strange Loop by Michael R. Jackson

[25:00 ] Kristen’s support of the musical and helping to bring it to Broadway

[26:45 ] The moral of that story, Debra says, is to follow your dream

[27:05 ] Kristen being a “professional Pisces”

[28:59 ] Something switched when Kristen turned 50

[29:43 ] Debra discusses Kristen’s ability to work with a team in the film industry

[33:53 ] Kristen discusses a specific example of the artistic collaborative creation in her film

[35:36 ] Debra discusses the fluidity of releasing attachment

[35:55 ] Debra asks Kristen to finish a series of sentences

[36:43 ] What Kristen would want to be if she wasn’t an author

[37:19 ] The things Kristen can’t live without

[37:43 ] Dead or alive, who would be at the top of Kristen’s list to converse with? 

[38:51 ] When was the last time Kristen cried? 

[39:50 ] Kristen looks at the fear and the optimism of what can happen with environmental issues

[41:05 ] Sometimes the things that concern Kristen more are the things we don’t see coming

[41:21 ] What will be the social impact of climate change? 

[42:05 ] Kristen’s ability to expand (Pisces) and ground (Virgo)

[42:45 ] Kristen’s authentic human self is non-linear

[43:10 ] Accepting and exploring the other sides of yourself 

[43:31 ] Debra’s promise in this lifetime to encourage uniqueness in people

[43:53 ] Kristen loves how Debra mines potential for people and encourage them to embrace it

[44:19 ] Debra’s experience with the people she reads for

[44:47 ] About Kristen’s book, The Escapement

[45:16 ] How Kristen validates Astrology “in spades”