After a short hiatus, Rosie and Rob are back on mic to chat all things design and development.

In this month’s episode they turn their focus onto a weird quirk of working at zeroheight - building tools that are used by other designers and developers. From the benefits of being able to properly dogfood the features they build, to the anxiety of having your work more closely critiqued by your customers, they weigh up the pros and cons of this experience.