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CZ vs Peter Schiff: A Debate on Bitcoin vs Tokenized Gold

CZ vs Peter Schiff: A Debate on Bitcoin vs Tokenized Gold

Update: 2025-12-06
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At Binance Blockchain Week 2025, Binance founder CZ and Euro Pacific Asset Management CEO & Global Strategist Peter Schiff engage in a fiery debate over the value and future of Bitcoin versus tokenized gold. Peter argues that tokenized gold, backed by tangible reserves, offers superior stability and real-world utility. CZ counters that Bitcoin, as a decentralized and borderless digital asset, carries unique technological advantages and growing global demand despite volatility. The two clash on payment use cases, investment value, technical foundations, and long-term prospects, ultimately holding firm to their opposing views.

Timeline:

00:00 Peter explains the practical use and value backing of tokenized gold

04:16 Peter argues Bitcoin is like fiat money with no backing

05:34 CZ presents physical gold on stage and raises the issue of verifiability

09:03 CZ: Bitcoin, like the internet, is intangible yet still valuable

11:45 Peter emphasizes Bitcoin has "no real utility," therefore no intrinsic value

13:44 Peter explains why gold can serve as a central bank reserve asset

17:12 Debate on whether Bitcoin qualifies as "money"

22:29 CZ highlights Bitcoin's utility in payments and as a store of value

25:25 Peter claims Bitcoin resembles a Ponzi structure

27:01 Peter: Despite major tailwinds, Bitcoin's price has fallen over the past four years

31:05 Peter argues Bitcoin's wealth effect comes from wealth transfer

33:04 CZ shares a real example of how Bitcoin improved a user's life in Africa

36:31 Debate over whether crypto payment cards actually use crypto for payments

42:00 Dispute over whether Bitcoin can store value

45:55 Discussion on whether speculators dominate Bitcoin's price

49:25 Peter reiterates Bitcoin is purely speculative and lacks real value

54:00 Debate concludes: both sides firmly maintain their positions

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CZ vs Peter Schiff: A Debate on Bitcoin vs Tokenized Gold

CZ vs Peter Schiff: A Debate on Bitcoin vs Tokenized Gold