What do Mariah Carey, arts-based student feedback, and the Disability Studies concept of “crip time” have in common? They all played integral roles in Dr. Alan Santinele Martino’s approach to teaching and learning during the most challenging moments of the COVID-19 pandemic. An assistant professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences at the University of Calgary, Dr. Martino is currently researching the intimate lives of LGBTQ2S+ disabled people in Alberta, and he brings this Disability Studies lens to our conversation. While we aimed to survive the pandemic, Dr. Martino points out, we also had a unique opportunity to consider how embracing “crip time” and interdependency might help us, as a community of teachers and learners, navigate difficult moments. Join us as Dr. Martino highlights the vital importance of disability justice, the value of vulnerability, and what it means to feel “Mariah Carey fabulous” in the classroom. Full episode transcript and references are available on our website.