Today, we’re stepping into one of the most discussed—and sometimes divisive—topics in the church: Are the gifts of the Holy Spirit still for today, or did they cease when ‘the perfect came’?

Some say the miraculous gifts—prophecy, tongues, healing—were only for the apostolic age. Others believe the same power that filled the early church is still available to believers right now.

In this episode, we’ll open Scripture, look at history, and ask: What did Paul really mean? What does it look like to walk in the power of the Spirit today—with wisdom, discernment, and love? Whether you come from a charismatic or conservative background, this conversation isn’t about taking sides—it’s about seeking truth together and letting God’s Word speak for itself.

Jonathan Stanfield, lead pastor of Living Hope in the Isle of Man, and Dan Barnard who leads the JoshGen AM Congregation in Sunningdale, share some insights around this important subject.