From El Capitan in Yosemite to Tham Luang Nang Non cave in northern Thailand and Meru Peak in the Indian Himalayas, Chai Vasarhelyi and Jimmy Chin (her partner in filmmaking and in life) have captured the imagination of audiences worldwide with intimate, non-fiction portrayals of outdoor athletes pushing themselves to extremes. Free Solo, their 2018 film, won the Academy Award for Best Documentary. Their first scripted project, Nyad, boasts Oscar-nominated performances from Annette Benning and Jodie Foster.

The film that blew Chai’s mind? Michael Winterbottom’s 2002 In This World, which blurs the lines of fiction and documentary to convey the story of an Afghani boy’s journey from a Pakistani refugee camp to London. She joins Cooper and Tabitha to explore the finer points of Winterbottom’s film and dives into questions of truth vs fiction, the nuances of working with real-life characters, and how the relationships she cultivates with her participants are essential to her filmmaking craft.

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