What if the thing holding you back isn’t your strategy—it’s your signal?

In this episode of the Chief Psycho Podcast, Jonathan Bonanno sits down with Joe Garner, transformation guide and host of Changing The Channel, to unpack the neuroscience of burnout and the mindset shift most leaders never make.

Together, they go deep into:

• Why burnout is an alarm—not a weakness
• How mindfulness isn’t about Zen—it’s about decision-making
• The 4 pillars of conscious transformation: mindset, mindfulness, intuition, and purpose
• How to recalibrate your internal channel to lead from clarity, not chaos

This isn’t leadership lite. It’s the hard reset you didn’t know you needed.

Hit play and let’s change the frequency.

Alright, podcasters—that’s a wrap on this episode of The Chief Psycho Podcast! If you got something out of today’s convo, do me a favor—share it, tag us, and keep the conversation going.

Remember, entrepreneurship isn’t just about the grind—it’s about the growth. Stay bold, stay human, and keep pushing the limits.

Catch you next time. Until then—keep it psycho.

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