Chasing Shadows: The Hunt for Justice in Get Refusal with Jennifer Lankin & Ezra Stone P.I.
Update: 2025-04-08
Description
In this episode of The Franciska Show, host Franciska discusses the complexities and behind-the-scenes efforts involved in helping women, known as agunot, who are unable to obtain a religious divorce (get) from their husbands. The episode features interviews with Jennifer Lankin, Interim CEO at ORA (Organization for the Resolution of Agunot), and Ezra Stone, a private investigator who specializes in tracking down recalcitrant husbands who refuse to grant their wives a get. Jennifer shares her journey into this work and explains ORA's community-focused approach to addressing get refusal. Ezra offers insights from his fieldwork, describing some of the challenges and strategies involved in locating and pressuring these husbands to comply with religious and legal obligations. The episode encapsulates the importance of community response, the use of private investigators in protracted cases, and the critical role that social culture and public pressure play in resolving these deeply rooted issues.
00:00 Introduction and Announcements
01:50 Special Guests: Ezra Stone and Jennifer Lankin
02:12 Jennifer Lincoln's Journey and Insights
03:54 Ezra Stone: The Private Investigator
05:57 The Role of Private Investigators in Get Refusal Cases
10:19 Challenges in Tracking Down Recalcitrant Spouses
11:36 Case Study: The Search for Naftali Shabani
22:24 Unexpected Encounters and Travel Stories
22:56 Investigative Techniques and Challenges
23:08 The Case of the Recalcitrant Brother
26:59 Legal and Ethical Considerations
27:56 Creative PI Strategies
29:02 The Big Daddy of Get Refusers
36:56 Social Media and Influencers
39:38 Security Issues in the Jewish Community
44:16 Closing Remarks and Reflections
About our Guests:
Ezra Stone is a licensed private investigator in both the USA and Israel, who specializes in sensitive cases within the Orthodox Jewish community. As a member of the community himself, he brings a deep understanding of its nuances, customs, and unspoken boundaries—insight that's critical when handling discreet investigations such as locating missing individuals, resolving Agunah cases, or uncovering hidden truths. Unlike many investigators who stand out in these insular environments, he blends in naturally, earning trust while gathering the facts. With a reputation for integrity, persistence, and cultural sensitivity, he takes on cases others can't touch. To get in touch: FrumDetective@gmail.com
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Jennifer Lifshutz Lankin is the Interim CEO of ORA: The Organization for the Resolution of Agunot, a nonprofit dedicated to eliminating abuse from the Jewish divorce process. ORA provides advocacy and support for agunot worldwide while also working to prevent get-abuse through education and awareness initiatives. Jennifer has been with ORA for nine years, shaping its programs, advocacy, and leadership. She holds a B.A. from Yeshiva University and a Master's degree from Hebrew University in Jerusalem. She currently lives in Jerusalem with her family.
Contact Franciska @ franciskakay@gmail.com
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