We have a special guest for this episode! Elly McCausland is a professor of English Literature at Ghent University, Belgium where she teaches the course "English Literature (Taylor’s Version)."

Elly has a book coming out called "Stars Around My Scars," which annotates 46 of Swift's songs. When we heard about this project, we knew we had to have her on to discuss one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking songs on The Tortured Poets Department, "Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus."

Listen in as they discuss Elly's upcoming book and go through the song, line by line, analyzing the lyrics and poetic devices Taylor uses throughout this masterpiece.

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