This is Part 4 of the MPW series called "Church-ish", where I and some of my friends dive into some of the idiosyncrasies and challenges of the modern-day church and discuss some of the things that need to be changed to better love people and make disciples.

Jennifer Foster, along with her now ex-husband, launched and pastored the fastest growing church in the history of North America in 2015 in Houston, TX. She has an abundance of wisdom and experience as a result of that journey.

Natalie Biggs has 20+ years of experience in corporate America and spent a significant amount of time as an executive in some very well-known corporations before moving into executive leadership in the church world.

In Part 4 of the Church-ish series, Jennifer, Natalie, and I discuss the challenges of mixing the call of God with the celebrity-hungry culture that is prevalent in the modern church and what can happen when ambition overshadows the anointing of God on a ministry.

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