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Circle's Bet On The Future Of Money

Circle's Bet On The Future Of Money

Update: 2025-10-28
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Gordon Liao, Head of Research at Circle, discusses the explosive growth of USDC to a $50 billion market cap. Gordon also explains how stablecoins are revolutionizing cross-border payments, the regulatory landscape shaping crypto, Circle's strategic IPO timing, and why blockchain-based payment rails will disrupt tradfi.




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Notes:


• USDC reaches $50B market cap


• Cross-border payments cost 6-7% traditionally


• Stablecoins settle transactions in seconds


• PayPal launched PYUSD competitor




Timestamps:


00:00 Start


00:40 Who is Gordon?


02:21 Responsibilities at Circle


05:27 What's unique about DeFi?


11:50 Why is fractional reserve bad?


12:40 Separating lending & payments


13:23 AMM functions


15:20 xy=k (inverse variation)


18:06 Circles's mission statement?


21:16 Arc: An L1 Blockchain for Stablecoin Finance


23:15 Proof of Authority


24:32 Ellipsis Labs Ad


25:19 Staking in dollars?


27:48 Courts & laws as slashing mechanism


28:55 Permissionlessness


32:06 Stablecoin competition


34:24 Smaller banks


36:34 Small bank creating stablecoins?


38:19 Will $1 equal $1?


41:29 Arc's value add


45:11 Arc timeline


45:29 Initial use cases


48:23 Liquidity fragmentation


50:35 Managing Circle's multi-chain operations


53:18 Market volatility


55:52 circuit breakers for volatility


57:42 Auto-deleveraging


58:29 Controlling a decentralized marketplace


59:46 Hedge funds & perps


1:02:29 Will TradFi even participate in these markets?


1:04:46 Degens gonna degen




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Circle's Bet On The Future Of Money

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