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Inside Crypto Treasury Deals With Josh Lim

Inside Crypto Treasury Deals With Josh Lim

Update: 2025-07-27
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Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today, Josh Lim from FalconX joins us to talk about the massive boom in corporate crypto treasury vehicles. We talk about how these deals work, from management teams and investment bankers structuring vehicles to raise capital, to the 45-60 day liquidity windows and 2-6x NAV premiums investors are seeing. Josh explains the Michael Saylor playbook, yield strategies, and whether this trend is sustainable or headed for a crash.


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Notes:


• Treasury vehicles see 45-60 day liquidity windows


• Some trade at 2-6x NAV premiums currently  


• $4 billion new Bitcoin vehicle announced recently


• Circle IPO traded at $230 per share peak


• MicroStrategy model being widely replicated


• 3-5 month timeline for SPAC conversions


Timestamps:


00:00 Start


00:46 Josh's background & FalconX


03:12 Arbelos Markets


04:03 Market overview


07:03 Digital asset treasury companies


11:07 Starting a treasury vehicle company


12:36 Hostile takeovers?


16:06 Deal structure


21:17 LOL "Management team"


23:09 ROI for investors


26:56 What's a healthy multiple?


28:19 Copy/Paste Strategy


29:32 Yield strategies


32:02 How does this fail?


35:40 Premium longevity


38:10 Out "Sayloring" Saylor, c'mon bro?


41:26 Alt Season go bye bye?


46:06 Trading on-chain, relic of the past?


49:30 24/7 trading


50:57 Prediction markets


53:24 Gwart's take on treasury companies


54:49 Josh's optimistic take


56:19 Circle IPO


57:29 Degen's gonna degen


59:05 Wrap


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Inside Crypto Treasury Deals With Josh Lim

Inside Crypto Treasury Deals With Josh Lim

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