Broadcaster and author, Clare Balding, joins Gaby for a natter about sport, her new book and all things joy!

Clare has always written, mainly sports columns - but also children's books too. But her new adult novel - 'Pastures New' - was inspired by a conversation with Jilly Cooper!

She tells Gaby about how the book came about, her love of writing and reading and how she was told that if she hadn't written a book by the time she was 30, it wasn't going to happen. (well, it did)

They also chat about the joy of watching sport with mates and celebrate the increased popularity of women's football.

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