Claude Le Pape-Gardeux, Data and AI Domain Leader at Schneider Electric, defines frugality of AI solutions and shares his point of view on the “new energy” demand vs. the current need to be energy efficient. In the show Claude shares with Gosia Gorska, the host of the podcast, useful tactics to measure AI successfully and effectively. The episode's second part is dedicated to the topic of constant improvement of measurement methods and cooperation with academic partners.